Hi David, The team got back to me telling that this change is not feasible, so you need to rename and then delete if you need to maintain unique name.
Cheers, Anash On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:23:34 AM UTC-4, David Midgley wrote: > > Hi Anash/API Team > > Now that v201409 is released the countdown has started on the sunsetting > of v201402 which basically means we need a workaround to this problem soon > as v201402 is the only live version that allows the renaming of deleted > adgroups! > > Anash, you mentioned: > > " > I've asked the team to investigate whether it is feasible to allow deleted > adgroups and campaigns to be renamed. I'll update the thread as I hear from > them > " > > Have you heard from the team? > > Cheers > > David > > On Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:51:46 UTC+1, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords > API Team) wrote: >> >> Hi Mariusz, >> >> I've asked the team to investigate whether it is feasible to allow >> deleted adgroups and campaigns to be renamed. I'll update the thread as I >> hear from them, >> >> Cheers, >> Anash >> >> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:43:41 AM UTC-4, Mariusz wrote: >>> >>> One more thing to bear in mind is that you probably should version >>> deleted adgroups. Imagine: >>> >>> - user creates adgroup “test” >>> - then deletes it, so the system first renames it to “test_del” and >>> then marks as deleted >>> - user creates again adgroup named “test” >>> - user tries to delete it >>> >>> The system will fail in step 4, because it will try to rename adgroup to >>> “test_del”, but that name already exists. So what you may do in that case >>> is to detect the error, and try to rename it to “test_del1”. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mariusz >>> >>> On Thursday, 18 September 2014 08:24:33 UTC+1, Oliver wrote: >>> >>> Just thinking loud here, if the adgroups are deleted via your software, >>>> what if you rename the adgroup *before *you delete it? We used to use >>>> a similar approach where we appended the text "_del" to all adgroup names >>>> that are about to be deleted. >>>> >>>> Obviously, if the adgroup is deleted via the adwords interface rather >>>> than your software, then the above won't help. >>>> >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:33:22 PM UTC+1, David Midgley wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Anash/API Team >>>>> >>>>> I responded to your question. Is there anything else you need to know? >>>>> >>>>> It would be great to get an answer on this please! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 15 September 2014 16:04:31 UTC+1, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords >>>>> API Team) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi David, >>>>>> >>>>>> If I remember correctly, the name needs to be unique in only active + >>>>>> paused items, not globally (with the new change). So if the user deletes >>>>>> an >>>>>> adgroup with the same name, you could create one with the same name >>>>>> again. >>>>>> Let me know if you are seeing a different behaviour, and I'll ask the >>>>>> team >>>>>> to investigate this further. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Anash P. Oommen, >>>>>> AdWords API Advisor. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, September 8, 2014 2:29:07 PM UTC-4, David Midgley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the quick response Anash! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me explain my use case and maybe you can find a workaround? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are working on an optimisation application that uses a strict >>>>>>> naming convention for campaign and adgroup names. If a user >>>>>>> accidentally >>>>>>> deletes an adgroup, my software can't correct the error by recreating >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> adgroup because if we create a new adgroup with the same name in the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>> campaign we'll get a duplicate adgroup name error. Our solution to this >>>>>>> problem was to rename the deleted adgroup which enabled us to create >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> new adgroup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that we can't rename the deleted adgroup and we can't create a >>>>>>> new adgroup with the same name, how can we enforce our strict naming >>>>>>> convention? This naming convention links adgroups between campaigns and >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> critical to our operations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We could "version" adgroup names, but this seems pretty untidy. We >>>>>>> could use labels, but this could create thousands of labels and more >>>>>>> (potentially error-prone) manual work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you think of a workaround? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, 8 September 2014 19:15:49 UTC+1, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords >>>>>>> API Team) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi David, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AdWords API v201406 no longer allows you to undelete campaigns, >>>>>>>> adgroups, etc. The UI and older API versions allows this behaviour for >>>>>>>> now, >>>>>>>> but they will eventually start working like the way v201406 works >>>>>>>> today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Anash P. Oommen, >>>>>>>> AdWords API Advisor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, September 8, 2014 11:19:45 AM UTC-4, David Midgley wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm having problems with a new >>>>>>>>> "OPERATION_NOT_PERMITTED_FOR_REMOVED_ENTITY" error. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It appears that you can't "undelete" an adgroup (ie set any >>>>>>>>> properties of a removed adgroup, including Status) or even add a >>>>>>>>> keyword to >>>>>>>>> an existing adgroup where that keyword was previously deleted. This >>>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>>> to be a change between the v201402 and v201406 versions of the API. >>>>>>>>> Obviously these are things that you can do via the UI. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is mention of this in another post: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/adwords-api/OPERATION_NOT_PERMITTED_FOR_REMOVED_ENTITY%7Csort:relevance/adwords-api/uLdWDk7dMgs/kCLnPsog1UAJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this a bug? Is this going to get fixed soon? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >> -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AdWords API Forum" group. 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