Thanks for the details/info.  So, performing the "*RESET CONVERSION*" makes
the source stgpool accessible/reusable. At this point, I assume the source
stgpool is empty?  I am guessing IBM did this to prevent client backups
from landing in the source stgpool until you have the chance to change the
managementclass to point client backups to the directory-container stgpool?

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:10 AM MM <michael.mal...@mm-it.at> wrote:

> Hallo Zoltan,
>
> more infos about the undocumented (and very useful) "*RESET CONVERSION*"
> cmd:
>
> After a successful conversion the *Access:* status
>
> (see: q stg <your_pool_name> f=d) will be shown as "*Converted*" and you
> can NOT backup new data into that pool any more.
>
> *BUT*, if you say/enter   *RESET CONVERSION" <your_pool_name>*,
>
> you change that *Access:*  status to the original *Access:* status "
> *Read/Write*" again.
>
> Thats all.....
>
> rgds and good look  Michael M.
>
> Zoltan Forray <zfor...@vcu.edu> hat am 27.06.2022 13:47 geschrieben:
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions and I would like more info on the undocumented
> "reset conversion" command and what it does.
>
> Unfortunately, since archives are <0.1% of total occupancy, we didn't
> separate them from the backups that roll-off to tape. But these
> suggestions do give me lots to go on. Again, thanks for the help!
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 2:43 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM <
> eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Of course that can be an option too, but I suggested the filepool in
> between because Zoltan only wanted to move the archives.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Core Infra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of David
> L.A. De Leeuw
> Sent: zondag 26 juni 2022 09:55
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Moving archives into containers
>
> Hi Eric and Zoltan
>
> Maybe I missed something. Why not directly convert stgpool from the tape
> storage pool.
> We did this a year ago, took with us the archives and backups (Spectrum
> Protect doesn't care) and finished the convert in a few weeks (using
> pretty
> slow equipment).
> Why the manual work ?
>
> David de Leeuw
> Medical Computing Unit
> Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer Sheva
> Israel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of Loon,
> Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 6:22 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving archives into containers
>
> Hi Zoltan,
>
> I think it's an undocumented command. It's not in the manuals, nor in the
> help, but I have used in in the past, at least in earlier 8.1 versions.
> Since you're constrained on disk space, moving relatively small amount of
> clients at once to your small filepool would be an option. The convert
> will
> move the data to your container pool and the reset command will allow you
> to move the next batch of clients to your filepool.
> I know, it's a lot of manual work, but I have moved all out long-term
> archives from our old servers into our new (container-based) servers this
> way.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Core Infra
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of Zoltan
> Forray
> Sent: vrijdag 24 juni 2022 16:15
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Moving archives into containers
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Thanks for the recommendations. I always thought the conversion process
> required the target to be empty. Unfortunately, we simply do not have
> sufficient free disk space to perform complete conversions to containers
> since everything existing stgpools are either on NFS/ISILON (yes I know
> IBM
> says this is not-recommended) or server internal disk. Right now I created
> my first directory/container pool since we had a(nother) hard drive
> failure
> in our 5+ year old Powervault so we took this opportunity to learn
> directory-containers and their limitations.
>
> Not sure what you mean by "reset conversion command". I couldn't find
> anything like that in the latest 8.1.14 manual?
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 9:20 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM <
> eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Zoltan,
>
> What you could do is create a file device class and move the files
> from tape to this file device class. As soon as the files are there,
> you can use the convert stgpool command to move the data into the
> directory container stgpool.
> If you do this in batches, you don't need a very large filepool. After
> emptying your filepool, you can use the reset conversion command to
> make the filepool available for new data.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of
> Zoltan Forray
> Sent: vrijdag 24 juni 2022 14:39
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Moving archives into containers
>
> We are currently in the midst of a big project to relocate our
> datacenter, by the end of 2023, to a new, smaller building.
>
> At the same time, we are actively pursuing redesigning/replacing our
> "Enterprise Data Protection" solution which may likely move us
> completely away from Spectrum Protect. FWIW, this project started
> before we were told we had to move out of our existing location.
>
> As an absolute minimum, we need to get everything off old magnetic
> tape
> (3592) that we need to retain beyond 2023 (archives), since the new
> datacenter will not have the physical space to accommodate tapes.
>
> Now that we have upgraded all ISP servers to 8.1.14.100/eFix 102, we
> have started playing with directory-containers, since there is now
> support for "protecting" containers to magnetic tape (for offsite
>
> backups).
> >
>
> With the additional directory-container support/tools, we were
> wondering if there is a way to get backups/archives into a
> directory-container stgpool other than during ingestion from a client?
>
> If we do move away from Spectrum Protect, is the only way to retain
> long-term archives is to recover them to the original platform/server
> and then move them to whatever long-term storage platform we choose (i.e.
> object, cloud)?
>
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