Hi Eric and Zoltan

Maybe I missed something. Why not directly convert stgpool from the tape 
storage pool.
We did this a year ago, took with us the archives and backups (Spectrum Protect 
doesn't care) and finished the convert in a few weeks (using pretty slow 
equipment).
Why the manual work ?

David de Leeuw
Medical Computing Unit
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Beer Sheva
Israel

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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 6:22 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving archives into containers

Hi Zoltan,

I think it's an undocumented command. It's not in the manuals, nor in the help, 
but I have used in in the past, at least in earlier 8.1 versions.
Since you're constrained on disk space, moving relatively small amount of 
clients at once to your small filepool would be an option. The convert will 
move the data to your container pool and the reset command will allow you to 
move the next batch of clients to your filepool.
I know, it's a lot of manual work, but I have moved all out long-term archives 
from our old servers into our new (container-based) servers this way.

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Core Infra


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray
Sent: vrijdag 24 juni 2022 16:15
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Moving archives into containers

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the recommendations. I always thought the conversion process 
required the target to be empty.  Unfortunately, we simply do not have 
sufficient free disk space to perform complete conversions to containers since 
everything existing stgpools are either on NFS/ISILON (yes I know IBM says this 
is not-recommended) or server internal disk.  Right now I created my first 
directory/container pool since we had a(nother) hard drive failure in our 5+ 
year old Powervault so we took this opportunity to learn directory-containers 
and their limitations.

Not sure what you mean by "reset conversion command".  I couldn't find anything 
like that in the latest 8.1.14 manual?

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 9:20 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM < 
eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:

> Hi Zoltan,
>
> What you could do is create a file device class and move the files 
> from tape to this file device class. As soon as the files are there, 
> you can use the convert stgpool command to move the data into the 
> directory container stgpool.
> If you do this in batches, you don't need a very large filepool. After 
> emptying your filepool, you can use the reset conversion command to 
> make the filepool available for new data.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of 
> Zoltan Forray
> Sent: vrijdag 24 juni 2022 14:39
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Moving archives into containers
>
> We are currently in the midst of a big project to relocate our 
> datacenter, by the end of 2023, to a new, smaller building.
>
> At the same time, we are actively pursuing redesigning/replacing our 
> "Enterprise Data Protection" solution which may likely move us 
> completely away from Spectrum Protect. FWIW, this project started 
> before we were told we had to move out of our existing location.
>
> As an absolute minimum, we need to get everything off old magnetic 
> tape
> (3592) that we need to retain beyond 2023 (archives), since the new 
> datacenter will not have the physical space to accommodate tapes.
>
> Now that we have upgraded all ISP servers to 8.1.14.100/eFix 102, we 
> have started playing with directory-containers, since there is now 
> support for "protecting" containers to magnetic tape (for offsite backups).
>
> With the additional directory-container support/tools, we were 
> wondering if there is a way to get backups/archives into a 
> directory-container stgpool other than during ingestion from a client?
>
> If we do move away from Spectrum Protect, is the only way to retain 
> long-term archives is to recover them to the original platform/server 
> and then move them to whatever long-term storage platform we choose (i.e.
> object, cloud)?
>
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