Thanks for the suggestions and I would like more info on the undocumented "reset conversion" command and what it does.
Unfortunately, since archives are <0.1% of total occupancy, we didn't separate them from the backups that roll-off to tape. But these suggestions do give me lots to go on. Again, thanks for the help! On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 2:43 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM < eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > Of course that can be an option too, but I suggested the filepool in > between because Zoltan only wanted to move the archives. > > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Core Infra > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of David > L.A. De Leeuw > Sent: zondag 26 juni 2022 09:55 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving archives into containers > > Hi Eric and Zoltan > > Maybe I missed something. Why not directly convert stgpool from the tape > storage pool. > We did this a year ago, took with us the archives and backups (Spectrum > Protect doesn't care) and finished the convert in a few weeks (using pretty > slow equipment). > Why the manual work ? > > David de Leeuw > Medical Computing Unit > Ben-Gurion University of the Negev > Beer Sheva > Israel > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of Loon, > Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 6:22 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving archives into containers > > Hi Zoltan, > > I think it's an undocumented command. It's not in the manuals, nor in the > help, but I have used in in the past, at least in earlier 8.1 versions. > Since you're constrained on disk space, moving relatively small amount of > clients at once to your small filepool would be an option. The convert will > move the data to your container pool and the reset command will allow you > to move the next batch of clients to your filepool. > I know, it's a lot of manual work, but I have moved all out long-term > archives from our old servers into our new (container-based) servers this > way. > > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Core Infra > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of Zoltan > Forray > Sent: vrijdag 24 juni 2022 16:15 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving archives into containers > > Hi Eric, > > Thanks for the recommendations. I always thought the conversion process > required the target to be empty. Unfortunately, we simply do not have > sufficient free disk space to perform complete conversions to containers > since everything existing stgpools are either on NFS/ISILON (yes I know IBM > says this is not-recommended) or server internal disk. Right now I created > my first directory/container pool since we had a(nother) hard drive failure > in our 5+ year old Powervault so we took this opportunity to learn > directory-containers and their limitations. > > Not sure what you mean by "reset conversion command". I couldn't find > anything like that in the latest 8.1.14 manual? > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 9:20 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM < > eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote: > > > Hi Zoltan, > > > > What you could do is create a file device class and move the files > > from tape to this file device class. As soon as the files are there, > > you can use the convert stgpool command to move the data into the > > directory container stgpool. > > If you do this in batches, you don't need a very large filepool. After > > emptying your filepool, you can use the reset conversion command to > > make the filepool available for new data. > > > > Kind regards, > > Eric van Loon > > Air France/KLM > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of > > Zoltan Forray > > Sent: vrijdag 24 juni 2022 14:39 > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Moving archives into containers > > > > We are currently in the midst of a big project to relocate our > > datacenter, by the end of 2023, to a new, smaller building. > > > > At the same time, we are actively pursuing redesigning/replacing our > > "Enterprise Data Protection" solution which may likely move us > > completely away from Spectrum Protect. 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