On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:04 PM <vic.thac...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Since the Plan 9 Foundation doesn't focus on technical aspects, Would the 
> formation of a Plan 9 Core Team be the next logical step? My understanding is 
> the core team would decide technical direction and implementation. What are 
> your thoughts?

If there's a plan 9 core team, that'd be news to me. I don't believe
that such a thing exists.

        - Dan C.

> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, at 11:31, Don A. Bailey wrote:
> > I don’t think you realize that you have your entire emotional
> > perception of this situation flipped.
> >
> > This was a simple comment on why I strongly disagreed with VT’s request
> > for a 5th Release. I explained myself. I did not get emotional, nor am
> > I emotional now. What I did receive is a lot of strange emotional
> > responses for which I have neither time nor interest. And frankly,
> > neither should anyone here.
> >
> > Who cares if I like 9front? I’m not against it, nor the developers. I’m
> > simply against *joining* 9front with 9legacy/etc as a formal release. I
> > personally believe that’s a bad move.
> >
> > Don’t agree? Ok, so what? I’m one dude. And yet the gaggle of you
> > people have tried to drag me down some psychoanalytical rabbit hole,
> > and waste my entire day. And because I won’t let you drag me into it,
> > and because I respond with short unemotional statements, you somehow
> > think *I’m* the bad guy because I won’t devolve into your world.
> >
> > Geez guys seriously… go touch grass and have a life. Know what I did
> > today instead of engaging with your bullshit? I did my job. I played
> > with my son. I cooked us an amazing dinner. We built a fort. We looked
> > at deer outside. We listened to music.
> >
> > All that because I didn’t waste my time with long bullshit responses
> > that wouldn’t satisfy you, anyway, because I disagree with 9front being
> > merged. Who cares?
> >
> > Live your life, man.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2024, at 9:18 PM, Michael Misch <michaelmisch1...@gmail.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> How you react to being told that you are behaving poorly, and it’s 
> >> neither appreciated or respected, speaks volumes. It’s telling, as you 
> >> say, that your take is to get defensive and, honestly, shitty. Emotional 
> >> maturity may be lacking in general on the list but please do not posture 
> >> from some imagined moral high ground. It’s so tiring, just do better.
> >>
> >>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 15:38, Don A. Bailey <don.bai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It’s telling that you see a difference of opinion as a temper tantrum. A 
> >>> major problem with people’s perspective of 9front and the current plan 9 
> >>> community, honestly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 6:35 PM, Jacob Moody <mo...@posixcafe.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/25/24 16:03, Don A. Bailey wrote:
> >>>>> I’m aware you’re a member of the foundation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I want I think I’ve made clear. I do not want to see a formal 
> >>>>> release of Plan 9 that includes anything from the 9front project. I do 
> >>>>> not want 9front merged with what I tongue-in-cheek term “mainline” 
> >>>>> (9legacy / 9pio updated patch sets). I’d rather 9front stay its own 
> >>>>> thing. I’m certain there are a lot of relevant contributions within 
> >>>>> 9front but I think its place is as its own niche system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Who is going to do the work? Do you want to do the work? Do you think 
> >>>> this temper tantrum you've been throwing on
> >>>> this list all day is somehow going to convince anyone else to work 
> >>>> with/for you?
> >>>> It's rich that you feel like you can dictate rules (no 9front code) but 
> >>>> have no interest in making any effort
> >>>> yourself to make that a reality.
> >>>>
> >>>> I await your "better" plan 9.
> >>>>
> >>>> - moody
> >>>>

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