some of the fuseblk disc/k drivers/modules on peppermint which is a flavour of ubuntu are not even in the kernel space and there are mount.XYZ processes left open which are wide open to attack (with # fuser -p <PID>) /c09 for those chips tings
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:24 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > i think the main reason people are willing to fall for the android > platform is bec. there is no good long-term supply of updated phone > hardware with backwards-compatible interfaces. > > a lot of qualcomm and mediatek chipsets are being built, but instead > of documentation they only ship half-baked linux drivers, which are > often not even mainlined. > > those linux drivers are already hard to make work on actual linux > distributions, or even on android distributions. > > who wants to reverse-engineer the hardware over and over again based > on such linux drivers... > > On 9/20/21, Ethan Gardener <eeke...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > tl;dr: forget inferno, port plan 9 to the pine phone. > > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Dave Eckhardt wrote: > >> > Anyone know if this project went anywhere? > >> > > >> > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/lectures/L05_Purge_Proposal.pdf > > > > I had to laugh at one of the slides. Inferno running natively on "x86 > > supercomputer"? I think implementing multicore support would be a first > > step, not to mention 64-bit! While it would be nice if those jobs were > done, > > they will take time and effort. Overall, if porting natively, I see > little > > sense in preferring Inferno to Plan 9, especially as Plan 9 already > supports > > 64-bit multicore. > > > >> Sadly, not. One issue is that modern Android releases don't > >> support 32-bit executables, and at the time that project was > >> attempted Inferno was somewhat 32-bit (I haven't looked since). > > > > Recalling the issues Hellaphone had and the time it took, I'm of the > opinion > > that getting Inferno to work on any given phone's Linux kernel is hardly > > more worthwhile than porting it directly to the hardware. The kernels > have > > undocumented interfaces. > > > > A current thread on OSdev (operating system development) forums is > looking > > at phones. It's a little rambly, but it reports on some encouraging > things. > > Lots of "baseband processors" (the phone-network communication > subsystems) > > have documented interfaces. There are at least 2 phones available now > which > > are fully open for operating system development: the PinePhone and the > > Librem 5. (5 is the screen size.) Of the 2, the Pine Phone seems better, > not > > least because it can boot from the SD card; useful for testing. > > https://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53251 > > > > There's also the option of building your own phone out of components. The > > thread has some info. I'm guessing most here would prefer a PinePhone. > > > >> But I think I saw some recent-ish Inferno-on-Android activity here: > >> > >> https://github.com/bhgv/Inferno-OS-bhgv > > > > That's probably a good source of code. bhgv is a freelance programmer who > > was very interested in Inferno and made several improvements including > > Truetype fonts. The last I heard was he tried to find paid work involving > > Inferno but couldn't, so he didn't have time to work on it. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T39aec8f3f9d8503d-Md3c9ddc97c8acc196f3b1896 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
