On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen<eri...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnich<rminn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let >>>> anyone mount anything now is that no one uses per-process namespaces. >>>> That's probably fine on your desktop, but not on a server where 20 >>>> people try to mount something under /mnt/foo or whatnot. >>> >>> Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only >>> allowed) behavior? >> >> It would be nice to fix up mounts so that you didn't need to be root >> and all that crap, and then make it the default, but I doubt Linus >> would let it fly. I get the feeling that private namespaces are viewed >> like chroots: a security feature no one but pros needs. Unfortunately >> not many linux devs seem to care about plan 9, and that has a negative >> impact on how much stuff can happen. Hopefully we'll gradually wear >> them down, or keep a minifork/patchset. >> > > When things get further along we can do a coordinated assault :)
Indeed :) > We've got bits of mindshare spread out over different places including > a couple of the major distributions, if things can be made optional We've got Greg KH and Christoph on our side. I'm sure viro would also be a voice in our favor, and he has some pull with Linus > they'll make it into mainline and then we just need to focus on > education by presenting demos at places like OLS, Plumbers, and LCA -- > and maybe get some good video podcast tutorials up on YouTube to get > people wanting and using the features. Of course the main thing is > finding a niche that needs the features and selling them on it. The > focus on cloud computing and other cluster type solutions in > mainstream computing may be helpful there. Yes, showing people the benefits of /net and how simple clustering is will be the path to victory. People will be amazed when they see how easy it is to make 5 computers pretend to be one. > > -eric > >
