On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnich<rminn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let
>>> anyone mount anything now is that no one uses per-process namespaces.
>>> That's probably fine on your desktop, but not on a server where 20
>>> people try to mount something under /mnt/foo or whatnot.
>>
>> Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only
>> allowed) behavior?
>
> It would be nice to fix up mounts so that you didn't need to be root
> and all that crap, and then make it the default, but I doubt Linus
> would let it fly. I get the feeling that private namespaces are viewed
> like chroots: a security feature no one but pros needs. Unfortunately
> not many linux devs seem to care about plan 9, and that has a negative
> impact on how much stuff can happen. Hopefully we'll gradually wear
> them down, or keep a minifork/patchset.
>
When things get further along we can do a coordinated assault :)
We've got bits of mindshare spread out over different places including
a couple of the major distributions, if things can be made optional
they'll make it into mainline and then we just need to focus on
education by presenting demos at places like OLS, Plumbers, and LCA --
and maybe get some good video podcast tutorials up on YouTube to get
people wanting and using the features. Of course the main thing is
finding a niche that needs the features and selling them on it. The
focus on cloud computing and other cluster type solutions in
mainstream computing may be helpful there.
-eric
