On 06/15/11 12:29, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling

That would suck worse.

Don't mind Richard.  He is of the mind that ZFS is perfect for everything
just the way it is, and anybody who wants anything different should adjust
their thought process.

I suspect rather than that it is more that Richard equated "write" to write(2) / dmu_write() calls and that would suck performance wise.

I also suspect that what Simon wants isn't a snapshot of every little write(2) level call but when the file is completed being updated, maybe on close(2) [ but that assumes the app does actually call close() ].

I know I've certainly had many situations where people wanted to snapshot or
rev individual files everytime they're modified.  As I said - perfect
example is Google Docs.  Yes it is useful.  But no, it's not what ZFS does.

Exactly versions of a whole file, but that is different to a snapshot on every write.

How you interpret "on every write" depends on where in the stack you are coming from. If you think about an application a "write" is whey you save the document but at the ZPL layer that is multiple write(2) calls and maybe even some rename(2)/unlink(2)/close(2) calls as well. If you move further down then doing a snapshot on every dmu_write() call is fundamentally at odds with how ZFS works.

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Darren J Moffat
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