I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is a set "core" of ZFS developers who make a lot of this move forward, and they are the key right now. The rest of us will just muddy the waters with conflicting/divergent opinions on direction and goals.
I'm sure once this tricky transition point is passed, that the discussion/development will be made open and public again. Really, as far as I'm concerned, anything that speeds up the next open source version of ZFS is a good thing, even if it does involve some back-room negotiations at first. (BTW, I'm not in the secret club, as much as I'd like to be. I decided I can help more by staying out of it for now, and let others who are more skilled handle this). -----Original Message----- From: Miles Nordin Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started. I glance at the list after years of neglect (selfishly...after almost losing my pool), and see stuff like this: shady backroom irc-kiddie bullshit. please: names, mailing lists, urls, hg servers. Many of us have worked on legitimate open source projects before, you know. We know what one looks like, and it's not enshrouded in a tangle of passive-voice sentences and exclusive mafia language. Of course you're welcome to associate with one another however you like, and maybe the hostile mailing-list-flame tone of people like me is part of what makes you want to make all your infrastructure private. but if the goal of The ZFS Organization is to reassure people they should make new ZFS pools after the Oracle implosion and therefore fund Nexenta support (a worthy goal IMHO!), this path won't work on me nor my friends. I'm confident of that. And I would have thought by now it'd be clear brilliant developers can survive on the open internet, and the momentum's usually a lot better there (not to mention transparency/legitimacy/resiliency). good luck, I guess. _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
