Actually, this brings up a related issue. Does anyone have experience
with running VirtualBox on iSCSI volumes vs NFS shares, both of which
would be backed by a ZFS server?

-Erik



On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 21:41 -0500, Tim Cook wrote:
>         
>         
>         
>         This is not entirely correct either. You're not forced to use
>         VMFS.
>  
> It is entirely true.  You absolutely cannot use ESX with a guest on a
> block device without formatting the LUN with VMFS.  You are *FORCED*
> to use VMFS.
>  
> 
> 
>         You can format the LUN with VMFS, then put VM files inside the
>         VMFS; in this case you get the Guest OS filesystem inside a
>         VMDK file on the VMFS filesystem inside a LUN/ZVOL on your ZFS
>         filesystem. You can also set up Raw Device Mapping (RDM)
>         directly to a LUN, in which case you get the Guest OS
>         filesystem inside the LUN/ZVOL on your ZFS filesystem. There
>         has to be VMFS available somewhere to store metadata, though.
>         
>  
> You cannot boot a VM off an RDM.  You *HAVE* to use VMFS with block
> devices for your guest operating systems.  Regardless, we aren't
> talking about RDM's, we're talking about storing virtual machines.
>  
> 
> 
>         It was and may still be common to use RDM for VMs that need
>         very high IO performance. It also used to be the only
>         supported way to get thin provisioning for an individual VM
>         disk. However, VMware regularly makes a lot of noise about how
>         VMFS does not hurt performance enough to outweigh its benefits
>         anymore, and thin provisioning has been a native/supported
>         feature on VMFS datastores since 4.0.
>         
>         I still think there are reasons why iSCSI would be better than
>         NFS and vice versa.
>         
> 
> 
> I'd love for you to name one.  Short of a piss-poor NFS server
> implementation, I've never once seen iSCSI beat out NFS in a VMware
> environment.  I have however seen countless examples of their
> "clustered filesystem" causing permanent SCSI locks on a LUN that
> result in an entire datastore going offline.
> 
> 
> --Tim
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