On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Richard Elling <richard.ell...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Christopher George wrote:
>
> >> That's kind of an overstatement. NVRAM backed by on-board LI-Ion
> >> batteries has been used in storage industry for years;
> >
> > Respectfully, I stand by my three points of Li-Ion batteries as they
> relate
> > to enterprise class NVRAM: ignition risk, thermal wear-out, and
> > proprietary design.  As a prior post stated, there is a dearth of
> published
> > failure statistics of Li-Ion based BBUs.
> >
> >> I can easily point out a company that has shipped tens of
> >> thousands of such boards over last 10 years.
> >
> > No argument here, I would venture the risks for consumer based Li-Ion
> > based products did not become apparent or commonly accepted until
> > the user base grew several orders of magnitude greater than "tens of
> > thousands".
> >
> > For the record, I agree there is a marked convenience with an integrated
> > high energy Li-Ion battery solution - but at what cost?
>
> I see nothing in the design that precludes a customer from using a
> Li-Ion battery, if they so desire.  Perhaps the collective has forgotten
> that DC power is one of the simplest and most widespread interfaces
> around? :-)
>
> So it boils down to packaging. I personally dislike having batteries
> all over the place, and I've seen dozens of customers who never
> pay attention to the battery status on their systems. However, for
> future design considerations, an optional internal energy mount
> can keep the wolves at bay.
>  -- richard
>
>
Personally I'd say it's a must.  Most DC's I operate in wouldn't tolerate
having a card separately wired from the chassis power.  It's far, far, far
more likely to have a tech knock that power cord out and not have anyone
notice than to have a battery spontaneously combust.   My .02.

-- 
--Tim
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