Hi,

Despite the fact that i agree in general with your comments, in reality
it all comes to money..
So in this case, if i could prove that ZFS was able to find X amount of
duplicated data, and since that X amount of data has a price of Y per
GB, IT could be seen as business enabler instead of a cost centre.
But indeed, you're right , in my case a possible technical solution is
trying to answer for a managerial solution..however, isn't it way IT was
invented, that i believe that's why i got my paycheck each month :)

Bruno

Richard Elling wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 3:47 AM, Bruno Sousa wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrey,
>>
>> For instance, i talked about deduplication to my manager and he was
>> happy because less data = less storage, and therefore less costs .
>> However, now the IT group of my company needs to provide to management
>> board, a report of duplicated data found per share, and in our case one
>> share means one specific company department/division.
>> Bottom line, the mindset is something like :
>>
>>    * one share equals to a specific department within the company
>>    * the department demands a X value of data storage
>>    * the data storage costs Y
>>    * making a report of the amount of data consumed by a department,
>>      before and after deduplication, means that data storage costs can
>>      be seen per department
>>    * if theres a cost reduction due to the usage of deduplication, part
>>      of that money can be used for business , either IT related
>>      subjects or general business
>>    * management board wants to see numbers related to costs, and not
>>      things like "the racio of deduplication in SAN01 is 3x", because
>>      for management this is "geek talk"
>>
>> I hope i was somehow clear, but i can try to explain better if needed.
>
> Snapshots, copies, compression, deduplication, and (eventually)
> encryption
> occurs at the block level, not the file level. Hence, file-level
> accounting
> works as long as you do not try to make a 1:1 relationship to physical
> space.
>
> But your problem, as described above, is one of managerial accounting.
> IMHO, trying to apply a technical solution to a managerial accounting
> problem is akin to catching a greased pig.  It is much easier to just do
> what businessmen do -- manage managerial accounting.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_accounting
>  -- richard
>
>

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