On Thu, February 5, 2009 14:15, Michael McKnight wrote:

> I appreciate the discussion on the practicality of archiving ZFS sends,
> but right now I don't know of any other options.  I'm a home user, so
> Enterprise-level solutions aren't available and as far as I know, tar,
> cpio, etc. don't capture ACL's and other low-level filesystem attributes.
>  Plus, they are all susceptible to corruption while in storage, making
> recovery no more likely than with a zfs send.

Your big constraint is using optical disks.  Certainly there are arguments
for single-use media for a backup, but a series of optical disks
containing a data stream gives rise to a nasty probability that *one* disk
in the set won't be readable, which will render everything after that
unrecoverable too.   .99 ^ 56 = .57, which is not a probability *I* want
to see of fully recovering my data.  (.99 is probably pessimistic, though.
 I hope.)  (56 disks is how many my backup would take on DVD-DL disks, and
is why I don't do it that way.)

External hard drives give you a lot more options.  I'm formatting external
USB drives as a ZFS pool, and then rsyncing data to them.  I can scrub
them for verification, and I can easily access individual files.  I create
snapshots on them so that I can have generations of backup accessible
without duplicating data that hasn't changed.  I'm currently updating them
via rsync, which doesn't propagate ACLs, but I could and should be using
send/receive instead, which would.  I believe I've figured out the logic,
but haven't updated the script.  If you do it with send/receive, you get a
snapshot on the backup drive that's identical (modulo ZFS bugs) with the
original, and which you can scrub to verify when you want, etc. 
Furthermore, I don't have to be physically present to change and label and
file 56 DVD-DL disks.

Looks like DL disks are of similar price (per GB) to external USB drives
-- and external drives can be used for more than one backup.  (Rather
similar meaning within a factor of two either way; I only checked prices
one place.)

-- 
David Dyer-Bennet, d...@dd-b.net; http://dd-b.net/
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