On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Miles Nordin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >>>>> "t" == Tim  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>      t> Uhh, yes.  There's more than one post here describing how to
>     t> set what the system does when the pool is in a faulted
>     t> state/you lose a drive.  Wait, panic, proceed.
>
> (a) search for it, try it, then report your results.  Don't counter a
>    reasonably-designed albeit quick test with stardust and fantasy
>    based on vague innuendos.
>
> (b) ``ALL of the above are settings that can be changed.''  Please
>    tell me how to fix ``ALL'' my problems, which you claim are all
>    fixable without enumerating them.  I will:
>
>    1. panic on exporting pool
>
>    2. 'zpool import foolpool' coredumps
>
>    3. pools backed by unavailable iSCSI targets and stored in
>       zpool.cache prevent bootup
>
>    4. WARNING: ZFS replay transaction error 30, dataset boot/usr, seq
> 0x134c, txtype 9
>
>    5. disappearing, reappearing /usr/export/t00 (the backing for the
>       file vdev was another ZFS pool, so this is also a ZFS problem)
>
> Yeah, I'm pressing the issue.  But I'm annoyed because I gave the
> question an honest go and got a clear result, and instead of repeating
> my test as you easily could, you dismiss the result without even
> reading it carefully.  I think it's possible to give much better
> advice by trying the the thing out than by extrapolating marketing
> claims.


I gave you a the PSARC.



>
>     t> I've read of more than one person here that has worked with a
>     t> Sun Engineer to manually re-create the metadata.
>
> (a) not in this situation, they didn't.  The loss was much less
>    catastrophic than a whole vdev---in fact it wasn't ever proven
>    that anything was lost at all by the underlying storage.  I think
>    the pool may also have been simpler structure, like a
>    single-device vdev exported as a LUN from a SAN.
>
> (b) that's not the same thing as *backline*, whatever that is.
>
> (c) that's pretty far short of ``if you get lucky enough ... you might
>    be able to survive.''  My claim: there is zero chance of importing
>    the pool in the normal, supported way after this failure scenario.
>
> (d) I don't think the OP had in mind counting on support from Sun
>    engineering when you responded by suggesting an unredundant pool
>    with copies=2 might suit his needs.
>

Which is why I told him not to do it, and that his chances were slim...
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