The reliability of flash increasing alot if "wear leveling" is
implemented and there's the capability to build a raid over a couple of
flash-modules ( maybe automatically by the controller ). And if there are RAM-modules as a cache infront of the flash the most problems will be solved regarding fast read- and write-access. I'm very interested what kind of data security will be implemented by SUN in future. I was not able to find any technical information until now. @ Adam I never heared about "eSSD". Do you have more information about this? google and me cannot find anything. regards, Tobias Adam Leventhal schrieb: On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:16 AM, Al Hopper wrote:But... if you look broadly at the current SSD product offerings, you see: a) lower than expected performance - particularly in regard to write IOPS (I/O Ops per Second)True. Flash is quite asymmetric in its performance characteristics. That said, the L2ARC has been specially designed to play well with the natural strengths and weaknesses of flash.and b) warranty periods that are typically 1 year - with the (currently rare) exception of products that are offered with a 5 year warranty.You'll see a new class of SSDs -- eSSDs -- designed for the enterprise with longer warranties and more write/erase cycles. Further, ZFS will do its part by not killing the write/erase cycles of the L2ARC by constantly streaming as fast as possible. You should see lifetimes in the 3-5 year range on typical flash.Obviously, for SSD products to live up to the current marketing hype, they need to deliver superior performance and *reliability*. Everyone I know *wants* one or more SSD devices - but they also have the expectation that those devices will come with a warranty at least equivalent to current hard disk drives (3 or 5 years).I don't disagree entirely, but as a cache device flash actually can be fairly unreliable and we'll pick it up in ZFS.So ... I'm interested in learning from anyone on this list, and, in particular, from Team ZFS, what the reality is regarding SSD reliability. Obviously Sun employees are not going to compromise their employment and divulge upcoming product specific data - but there must be *some* data (white papers etc) in the public domain that would provide some relevant technical data??A typical high-end SSD can sustain 100k write/erase cycles so you can do some simple math to see that a 128GB device written to at a rate of 150M/s will last nearly 3 years. Again, note that unreliable devices will result in a performance degradation when you fail a checksum in the L2ARC, but the data will still be valid out of the main storage pool. You're going to see much more on this in the next few months. I made a post to my blog that probably won't answer your questions directly, but may help inform you about what we have in mind. http://blogs.sun.com/ahl/entry/flash_hybrid_pools_and_future Adam -- Adam Leventhal, Fishworks http://blogs.sun.com/ahl _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss |
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