On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... very big snip ... > (Although I have to say that, in a previous job, scrapping user quotas > entirely > not only resulted in happier users, much less work for the helpdesk, and - > paradoxically - largely eliminated systems running out of space.)
[Hi Peter] Agreed. So, one has to re-evaluate "legacy" thinking in the context of inexpensive storage offered by ZFS in combination with cost effective disk drives and ask the question: what lowers the total cost of ownership and provides the best user experience? Option a) A complex quota based system implemented on top of providing the "correct" required system storage capacity. Option b) A ZFS based storage system with x2 or x4 (etc) times the "correct" required storage capacity with a once a day cron job to remind the storage hogs (users) to trim their disk space, or face the "or else" option (the stick approach). And perhaps a few quotas on filesystems used by applications or users know to be problematic. I would submit that Option b) will provide a lower cost, in terms of total system cost, over time - expecially given the price performance of modern disk drives in combination with high performance log and cache devices (if required). Every time I've come across a usage scenario where the submitter asks for per user quotas, its usually a university type scenario where univeristies are notorious for providing lots of CPU horsepower (many, many servers) attached to a simply dismal amount of back-end storage. Where users are, and continue to be, miffed at the dismal amount of storage they are offered. This is legacy thinking looking for a "legacy-thinking-compliant" solution to a problem that has already been solved by ZFS and the current generation of high capacity, ultra low-cost per terabyte, offered by modern hardware. IOW - it's a people issue, rather than a technological issue. Regards, -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss