Al Hopper wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Ross wrote:
>
> .... reformatted ...
>   
>> Might be off-topic slightly, but why not raid-z2?  We're looking at 
>> a thumper ourselves and I'd be nervous of data loss with single 
>> parity raid (I've had enough close calls with SCSI drives, let alone 
>> SATA).
>>     
>
> What do you mean by "let alone SATA"?
>
> One of the *big* issues with (parallel bus) SCSI, is, and always has 
> been, that a single "problem" SCSI device, could mess up the SCSI bus 
> and cause all kinds of nasty, system level, errors.  And then there's 
> the old saying: "all SCSI issues are (caused by SCSI) bus termination 
> issues".  All this aside from the issues with routing/supporting heavy 
> 68-wire external SCSI cables and connectors.
>
> I've personally (and professionally) been bitten by all 3 above 
> scenarios - more than once!  IMHO, SATA point-to-point serial links 
> are far more reliable than anything I could build with SCSI 
> technology.
>
> Thank goodness for SATA and SAS....
>   

pick your failure modes :-)
I've got lots of scars from the first 8 years of SCSI... async vs sync, 
DB-50s, tagged
queuing firmware bugs, terminators, simple parity protection, etc.  
Today many of
these are more-or-less solved, but we do see RFI with the SATA/SAS 
interconnect
and firmware will always have bugs.  End-to-end error detection is a 
good thing.
 -- richard

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