On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:14:20PM -0700, Richard Elling - PAE wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >This is the case where I don't understand Sun's politics at all: Sun > >doesn't offer really cheap JBOD which can be bought just for ZFS. And > >don't even tell me about 3310/3320 JBODs - they are horrible expansive :-( > > Yep, multipacks are EOL for some time now -- killed by big disks. Back when > disks were small, people would buy multipacks to attach to their > workstations. > There was a time when none of the workstations had internal disks, but I'd > be dating myself :-) > > For datacenter-class storage, multipacks were not appropriate. They only > had single-ended SCSI interfaces which have a limited cable budget which > limited their use in racks. Also, they weren't designed to be used in a > rack environment, so they weren't mechanically appropriate either. I > suppose > you can still find them on eBay. > >If Sun wants ZFS to be absorbed quicker it should have such _really_ cheap > >JBOD. > > I don't quite see this in my crystal ball. Rather, I see all of the > SAS/SATA > chipset vendors putting RAID in the chipset. Basically, you can't get a > "dumb" interface anymore, except for fibre channel :-). In other words, if > we were to design a system in a chassis with perhaps 8 disks, then we would > also use a controller which does RAID. So, we're right back to square 1.
Richard, when I talk about cheap JBOD I think about home users/small servers/small companies. I guess you can sell 100 X4500 and at the same time 1000 (or even more) cheap JBODs to the small companies which for sure will not buy the big boxes. Yes, I know, you earn more selling X4500. But what do you think, how Linux found its way to data centers and become important player in OS space ? Through home users/enthusiasts who become familiar with it and then started using the familiar things in their job. Proven way to achieve "world domination". ;-)) przemol _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
