On 06/29/2018 02:57 PM, Robert Caulk wrote:
these pastebin links are susceptible to breaking [...] degrade the
quality and resiliency of the yade launchpad answer forum.
Very good point.
I’ve noticed another problem though: few users read the "how to ask",
even after we explicitly direct them to do so.
You can lead a horse to the water, you can't make him drink.
But we can improve water quality. :)
Therefore, I suggest we either put the MWE section up top and in its
own text block, or make an entirely different page dedicated to
explaining MWEs.
Everything in one page is my favorite but yes, MWE could be highlighted
more since it is really a most important part of that page.
Or, maybe there is a way to define an MWE at the top of the launchpad
forum home page ;-).
Good idea but after checking a bit I still did not see any way to change
the default text. If there is it is very well hidden.
Bruno
Robert
Le ven. 29 juin 2018 à 12:33, Bruno Chareyre
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
Hi Yade devs,
When I try to save a few minutes to answer some questions I very ofen
find myself clicking here and there to access a pastebin file
which is
needed for a given script to run. The [pastebin|whateve|...] file
can't
downloaded directly in many cases. I then have to copy - which can
imply
substantial scrooling, paste, save in the right place, go back to
terminal, run.
And sometimes it is just to find that the script itself will not run,
even with the proper data file.
If you want to see this cycle in action you can have a look at [1]
where
four posts more or less are just to sort out the data files, implying
than Jan had to repeatedly reproduce the cycle mentioned above. Worth
mentioning, post #11 introduces additional links for the same
filenames
(same content? who knows?), so it is absolutely unclear now what
someone
is supposed to download to simply test a script and help someone else.
I was thinking that we could go deeper in the MWE part of
https://yade-dem.org/wiki/Howtoask, to push questionners toward
self-contained scripts.
An issue is that even among the devs I see this tendency to
manipulate
data files.
There are a few cases where it can't be avoided, like stl mesh.
But in
most cases I think a data file is not needed MWE, specifically for
sphere positions and clump data (which are just positions).
What do you think? Does it sound realistic to ask users to avoid
extra
files in MWEs?
We could even provide a way to make sure that no "file not found"
will
occur. For instance, every mwe.py should be compatible with:
mkdir MWE
cp mwe.py ./MWE/mweTest.py
cd MWE
/path/to/yade mweTest.py
rm -rf ../MWE
Other suggestions?
Bruno
[1] https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/670501
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