On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 23:20 +0100, Simon Eigeldinger wrote: > Hi Eric, > > This is basically just a normal desktop pc. > it is headless because it has no screen. > a keyboard is connected though. > > on the arch wiki i read that this is a problem with auto configuring > the > screen. > the server can't find a screen on all graphics adapters so it seems > to hang. > but yeah we will see. > Maybe someone else can chime in here. > > > but i might call a gnome mailing list. > maybe someone there has an idea what to do. > > greetings, > Simon > > Am 11.03.2017 um 22:23 schrieb Eric Gunther: > > On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 20:26 +0100, Simon Eigeldinger wrote: > > > Hi Eric, > > > > > > I understood before as well. > > > I tested Fedora, Ubuntu Gnome, OpenSUSE, Paldo, Debian Testing, > > > Manjaro > > > and some more i can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > Though i don't understand why the system should stop booting > > > without > > > a > > > screen connected. Because a half booted machine doesn't make > > > sense. > > > > > > Screen auto detection isn't a bad thing but not booting is as > > > well. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 11.03.2017 um 19:44 schrieb Eric Gunther: > > > > On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 19:11 +0100, Simon Eigeldinger wrote: > > > > > Hi Eric and all, > > > > > > > > > > I guess we need to get that implemented into the server > > > > > itself. > > > > > Because contacting all the distros might be to difficult. > > > > > that > > > > > might > > > > > be > > > > > a workaround but i think we need to get that fixed. > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 11.03.2017 um 14:06 schrieb Eric Gunther: > > > > > > On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 20:52 +0100, Simon Eigeldinger wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a blind person from austria. > > > > > > > I am using the computer often without a screen. > > > > > > > I figured out on many distros there are issues with the > > > > > > > desktop > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > a screen. > > > > > > > Seems the desktop isn't coming up when no screen is > > > > > > > connected? > > > > > > > I read in the arch wiki that this is caused by the screen > > > > > > > auto > > > > > > > config > > > > > > > function of the server. > > > > > > > can that be worked around? > > > > > > > I wanted to install a system on a machine but the live > > > > > > > dvd > > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > come up because of this. > > > > > > > Is there something i can specify at boot? for example > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > parameters > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > can enter at the boot menu? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For people using no screen this is pretty frustrating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > greetings and thanks for helping, > > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren > > > > > > > geprüft. > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > > > > > > > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > > > > > > > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a somewhat amature user of X, I spent some time last > > > > > > night > > > > > > looking > > > > > > at info on this. I think you want a 'headless' setup. > > > > > > Although in > > > > > > your case I am not sure this is appropriate. Often people > > > > > > will > > > > > > login > > > > > > to a machine like this over the internet via ssh. So you > > > > > > need > > > > > > another > > > > > > computer to login to the 'headless' one. > > > > > > > > > > > > What I found is that you probably have to modify xorg.conf > > > > > > or > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > -monitor.conf in the /etc/X11/ and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ > > > > > > directories > > > > > > respectively. This does not seem like a good soultion, > > > > > > particularly in > > > > > > the case of a liveDVD. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the best solution would be to email a maintainer of > > > > > > the > > > > > > liveDVD > > > > > > or support for the distribution that your trying to use, > > > > > > whether it > > > > > > be > > > > > > forum, mailing list, or irc(chat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a good day, > > > > > > > > > > > > eg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > > > > > > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > > > > > > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you may have misunderstood. The proper (As far as I > > > > know) > > > > way > > > > to set up when having dificulties is with the configuration > > > > files. > > > > As > > > > far as contacting all the distros, I was going to ask; which > > > > liveDVD > > > > are you trying to run? In any event I was saying that you > > > > should > > > > probably talk to the maintainer/support/community of that* > > > > distro. > > > > Also I think it is unlikely, but probably not impossible, to > > > > issue > > > > parameters at boot that will assist you. > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > Eric Gunther > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > > > > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > > > > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > > > > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon, > > > > I am a desktop opensuse user and I believe they have a very > > supportive > > community, I'm not involved but that has been my impression. > > > > a quick search led me here: > > https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-11/msg00383.html > > > > which I think is related. > > > > furthermore this may help: > > > > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels > > > > Honestly, I think its a bit quirky that a system wont work without > > a > > monitor but I have to point out initially you said that it would > > not > > get to the desktop. So it is booting fine presumably. The command > > line interface is usefull for many tasks. > > > > Since you mention screen auto detection, I have seen mention of > > saving > > a file with EDID info in it. > > > > another quick search and take this for example: > > > > http://kodi.wiki/view/Creating_and_using_edid.bin_via_xorg.conf > > > > All of this though requires some sort of configuration, either from > > the > > command line or from a text editor ( I think ). As I mentioned > > before > > the common case is that people will login to a headless machine via > > ssh. This can come with additional difficulties. > > > > > > "half a booted machine doesn't make sense" > > > > Thing is that your computer is telling you the same thing. > > > > "that might be a workaround but i think we need to get that fixed." > > > > You may have some luck at this mailing list or other xorg mailing > > lists > > as well, I really don't know. From my end though, this is not > > something I am capable of. > > > > here may help: > > > > https://www.x.org/wiki/XorgMailingLists/ > > > > > > good luck and, > > > > Have a good day, > > > > eg > > _______________________________________________ > > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s > > > Hi Simon,
That is what I understand. I think getting the monitor info is what is making the computer not work, yes. I did look at the kernel boot parameters somewhat and I know that "nomodeset" is a commonly used one for monitor/display issues. Also, just a thought, this may help "The purpose of BLINUX project is to improve usability of the LINUX operating system for the user who is blind" http://www.leb.net/blinux/ Have a good day, eg _______________________________________________ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
