On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:41 PM, George N. White III <gnw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What differences do you see?
>
> With my TeX Live 2013, the xelatex example used Latin Modern while pdflatex
> used cm-super. Adding "\usepackage{lmodern}" gives the same fonts. The
> xelatex output has a bit of extra space before the "?" in "anyone?".
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Herbert Schulz <he...@wideopenwest.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 2:28 AM, Joel GOMBIN <joel.gom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I encountered a small issue while trying to use biblatex with xetex. I
> > reported it to biblatex but they said it wasn't a biblatex-related issue
> > (see https://github.com/plk/biblatex/issues/162#issuecomment-24971883)
> >
> > With the exact same params passed to biblatex, when I compile with pdflatex
> > and xelatex, I get different results with regards to the way punctuation is
> > handled inside bibitems titles. Let me provide MWEs. This is the file
> > compiled with xelatex :
> >
> > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > \usepackage{xunicode}
> > \usepackage{xltxtra}
> > \usepackage[british,french]{babel}
> > \usepackage[citestyle=authoryear-comp, bibstyle=authoryear, natbib=true,
> > babel=hyphen, language=auto]{biblatex}
> > \usepackage{csquotes}
> >
> > \usepackage{filecontents}
> > \begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
> > @ARTICLE{agnew_iv._1987,
> > author = {Agnew, John},
> > title = {{IV.} Place anyone? A comment on the {McAllister} and Johnston
> > papers},
> > journal = {Political Geography Quarterly},
> > year = {1987},
> > volume = {6},
> > pages = {39--40},
> > number = {1},
> > month = jan,
> > doi = {10.1016/0260-9827(87)90030-9},
> > file = {Agnew - 1987 - IV. Place anyone A comment on the McAllister
> > and.pdf:/home/joel/.zotero/zotero/lkxpsie2.default/zotero/storage/WWPCJ577/Agnew
> > - 1987 - IV. Place anyone A comment on the McAllister
> > and.pdf:application/pdf;ScienceDirect
> > Snapshot:/home/joel/.zotero/zotero/lkxpsie2.default/zotero/storage/VB7RPMZE/login.html:text/html},
> > hyphenation = {english},
> > issn = {0260-9827},
> > shorttitle = {{IV.} Place anyone?},
> > url = {http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0260982787900309},
> > urldate = {2012-08-02}
> > }
> > @ARTICLE{bussi_repenser_2007,
> > author = {Bussi, Michel},
> > title = {Repenser les territoires ensemble : une inflexion paradigmatique
> > pour la géographie politique ?},
> > journal = {{L'Espace} Politique},
> > year = {2007},
> > number = {3},
> > month = sep,
> > note = {La géographie dans sa dimension politique a été longtemps
> > assimilée
> > à une science stratégique, utile à la conquête d'un territoire,à
> > sa maîtrise ou à sa gestion… La géographie politique s'intéresse
> > ainsi classiquement aux conflits territoriaux ou pour le moins aux
> > rapports de force exprimés dans un contexte spatial. Il existe
> > assurément
> > suffisamment de conflits, de violences ou de rapports de force à
> > arbitrer dans le monde pour justifier pleinement de l'utilité d'un
> > tel objet scientifique pour d (...)},
> > abstract = {La géographie dans sa dimension politique a été longtemps
> > assimilée
> > à une science stratégique, utile à la conquête d'un territoire,à
> > sa maîtrise ou à sa gestion… La géographie politique s'intéresse
> > ainsi classiquement aux conflits territoriaux ou pour le moins aux
> > rapports de force exprimés dans un contexte spatial. Il existe
> > assurément
> > suffisamment de conflits, de violences ou de rapports de force à
> > arbitrer dans le monde pour justifier pleinement de l'utilité d'un
> > tel objet scientifique pour d [...]},
> > copyright = {Tous droits réservés},
> > editor = {Bussi, Michel},
> > hyphenation = {fr},
> > issn = {1958-5500},
> > shorttitle = {Repenser les territoires ensemble},
> > url = {http://espacepolitique.revues.org/index648.html},
> > urldate = {2011-11-16}
> > }
> > \end{filecontents}
> >
> > \addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
> >
> > \begin{document}
> >
> > Some text.
> >
> > Some text, with a citation \citep{agnew_iv._1987}. Et une autre citation
> > \citep{bussi_repenser_2007}.
> >
> > And now a bibliography.
> >
> > \printbibliography
> > \end{document}
> >
> >
> > And now here is the MWE code for pdflatex:
> >
> >
> > \documentclass{article}
> > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
> > \usepackage[british,french]{babel}
> > \usepackage[citestyle=authoryear-comp, bibstyle=authoryear, natbib=true,
> > babel=hyphen, language=auto]{biblatex}
> > \usepackage{csquotes}
> >
> > \usepackage{filecontents}
> > \begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
> > @ARTICLE{agnew_iv._1987,
> > author = {Agnew, John},
> > title = {{IV.} Place anyone? A comment on the {McAllister} and Johnston
> > papers},
> > journal = {Political Geography Quarterly},
> > year = {1987},
> > volume = {6},
> > pages = {39--40},
> > number = {1},
> > month = jan,
> > doi = {10.1016/0260-9827(87)90030-9},
> > file = {Agnew - 1987 - IV. Place anyone A comment on the McAllister
> > and.pdf:/home/joel/.zotero/zotero/lkxpsie2.default/zotero/storage/WWPCJ577/Agnew
> > - 1987 - IV. Place anyone A comment on the McAllister
> > and.pdf:application/pdf;ScienceDirect
> > Snapshot:/home/joel/.zotero/zotero/lkxpsie2.default/zotero/storage/VB7RPMZE/login.html:text/html},
> > hyphenation = {english},
> > issn = {0260-9827},
> > shorttitle = {{IV.} Place anyone?},
> > url = {http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0260982787900309},
> > urldate = {2012-08-02}
> > }
> > @ARTICLE{bussi_repenser_2007,
> > author = {Bussi, Michel},
> > title = {Repenser les territoires ensemble : une inflexion paradigmatique
> > pour la géographie politique ?},
> > journal = {{L'Espace} Politique},
> > year = {2007},
> > number = {3},
> > month = sep,
> > note = {La géographie dans sa dimension politique a été longtemps
> > assimilée
> > à une science stratégique, utile à la conquête d'un territoire,à
> > sa maîtrise ou à sa gestion… La géographie politique s'intéresse
> > ainsi classiquement aux conflits territoriaux ou pour le moins aux
> > rapports de force exprimés dans un contexte spatial. Il existe
> > assurément
> > suffisamment de conflits, de violences ou de rapports de force à
> > arbitrer dans le monde pour justifier pleinement de l'utilité d'un
> > tel objet scientifique pour d (...)},
> > abstract = {La géographie dans sa dimension politique a été longtemps
> > assimilée
> > à une science stratégique, utile à la conquête d'un territoire,à
> > sa maîtrise ou à sa gestion… La géographie politique s'intéresse
> > ainsi classiquement aux conflits territoriaux ou pour le moins aux
> > rapports de force exprimés dans un contexte spatial. Il existe
> > assurément
> > suffisamment de conflits, de violences ou de rapports de force à
> > arbitrer dans le monde pour justifier pleinement de l'utilité d'un
> > tel objet scientifique pour d [...]},
> > copyright = {Tous droits réservés},
> > editor = {Bussi, Michel},
> > hyphenation = {fr},
> > issn = {1958-5500},
> > shorttitle = {Repenser les territoires ensemble},
> > url = {http://espacepolitique.revues.org/index648.html},
> > urldate = {2011-11-16}
> > }
> > \end{filecontents}
> >
> > \addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
> >
> > \begin{document}
> >
> > Some text.
> >
> > Some text, with a citation \citep{agnew_iv._1987}. Et une autre citation
> > \citep{bussi_repenser_2007}.
> >
> > And now a bibliography.
> >
> > \printbibliography
> > \end{document}
> >
> >
> > You can see the difference in the first reference title (using polyglossia
> > instead of babel doesn't change anything). I believe the expected behaviour
> > is the one that pdflatex gives. Any idea how to fix this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > --
> > Joël Gombin
> >
>
> Howdy,
>
> I see no difference at all between the xelatex and pdflatex documents! This
> is with TeX Live 2013 with all updates as of today. Placing a \listfiles at
> the top of the xelatex source I get
>
> *File List*
> article.cls 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
> size10.clo 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX file (size option)
> fontspec.sty 2013/05/20 v2.3c Font selection for XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX
> expl3.sty 2013/07/28 v4582 L3 Experimental code bundle wrapper
> l3names.sty 2012/12/07 v4346 L3 Namespace for primitives
> l3bootstrap.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Experimental bootstrap code
> etex.sty 1998/03/26 v2.0 eTeX basic definition package (PEB)
> l3basics.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Basic definitions
> l3expan.sty 2013/07/24 v4565 L3 Argument expansion
> l3tl.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Token lists
> l3seq.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Sequences and stacks
> l3int.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Integers
> l3quark.sty 2013/07/21 v4564 L3 Quarks
> l3prg.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Control structures
> l3clist.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Comma separated lists
> l3token.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Experimental token manipulation
> l3prop.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Property lists
> l3msg.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Messages
> l3file.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 File and I/O operations
> l3skip.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Dimensions and skips
> l3keys.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Experimental key-value interfaces
> l3fp.sty 2013/07/09 v4521 L3 Floating points
> l3box.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Experimental boxes
> l3coffins.sty 2012/09/09 v4212 L3 Coffin code layer
> l3color.sty 2012/08/29 v4156 L3 Experimental color support
> l3luatex.sty 2013/07/28 v4581 L3 Experimental LuaTeX-specific functions
> l3candidates.sty 2013/07/24 v4576 L3 Experimental additions to l3kernel
> ifpdf.sty 2011/01/30 v2.3 Provides the ifpdf switch (HO)
> xparse.sty 2013/07/28 v4582 L3 Experimental document command parser
> fontspec-patches.sty 2013/05/20 v2.3c Font selection for XeLaTeX and
> LuaLaTe
> X
> fixltx2e.sty 2008/08/10 v1.1mf fixes to LaTeX
> fontspec-xetex.sty 2013/05/20 v2.3c Font selection for XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX
> fontenc.sty
> eu1enc.def 2010/05/27 v0.1h Experimental Unicode font encodings
> eu1lmr.fd 2009/10/30 v1.6 Font defs for Latin Modern
> xunicode.sty 2011/09/09 v0.981 provides access to latin accents and many
> oth
> er characters in Unicode lower plane
> eu1lmss.fd 2009/10/30 v1.6 Font defs for Latin Modern
> graphicx.sty 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR)
> keyval.sty 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC)
> graphics.sty 2009/02/05 v1.0o Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR)
> trig.sty 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC)
> graphics.cfg 2010/04/23 v1.9 graphics configuration of TeX Live
> xetex.def 2013/04/29 v0.96 LaTeX color/graphics driver for XeTeX
> (RRM/JK)
>
> fontspec.cfg
> xltxtra.sty 2010/09/20 v0.5e Improvements for the "XeLaTeX" format
> ifluatex.sty 2010/03/01 v1.3 Provides the ifluatex switch (HO)
> ifxetex.sty 2010/09/12 v0.6 Provides ifxetex conditional
> realscripts.sty 2013/03/18 v0.3c Access OpenType subscripts and
> superscripts
>
> metalogo.sty 2010/05/29 v0.12 Extended TeX logo macros
> babel.sty 2013/05/16 v3.9f The Babel package
> english.ldf 2012/08/20 v3.3p English support from the babel system
> frenchb.ldf 2013/07/06 v2.6e French support from the babel system
> scalefnt.sty
> biblatex.sty 2013/07/15 v2.7a programmable bibliographies (PK/JW/AB)
> biblatex2.sty 2013/07/15 v2.7a programmable bibliographies (biber)
> (PK/JW/AB
> )
> etoolbox.sty 2011/01/03 v2.1 e-TeX tools for LaTeX
> kvoptions.sty 2011/06/30 v3.11 Key value format for package options (HO)
> ltxcmds.sty 2011/11/09 v1.22 LaTeX kernel commands for general use (HO)
> kvsetkeys.sty 2012/04/25 v1.16 Key value parser (HO)
> infwarerr.sty 2010/04/08 v1.3 Providing info/warning/error messages (HO)
> etexcmds.sty 2011/02/16 v1.5 Avoid name clashes with e-TeX commands (HO)
> logreq.sty 2010/08/04 v1.0 xml request logger
> logreq.def 2010/08/04 v1.0 logreq spec v1.0
> ifthen.sty 2001/05/26 v1.1c Standard LaTeX ifthen package (DPC)
> url.sty 2006/04/12 ver 3.3 Verb mode for urls, etc.
> blx-dm.def
> authoryear-comp.dbx
> authoryear.dbx
> biblatex-dm.cfg
> blx-compat.def 2013/07/15 v2.7a biblatex compatibility (PK/JW/AB)
> biblatex.def
> blx-natbib.def 2013/07/15 v2.7a biblatex compatibility (PK/JW/AB)
> standard.bbx 2013/07/15 v2.7a biblatex bibliography style (PK/JW/AB)
> authoryear.bbx 2013/07/15 v2.7a biblatex bibliography style (PK/JW/AB)
> authoryear-comp.cbx 2013/07/15 v2.7a biblatex citation style (PK/JW/AB)
> biblatex.cfg
> csquotes.sty 2011/10/22 v5.1d context-sensitive quotations
> csquotes.def 2011/10/22 v5.1d csquotes generic definitions
> csquotes.cfg
> filecontents.sty 2011/10/08 v1.3 Create an external file from within a
> LaTeX
> document
> french.lbx 2013/07/15 v2.7a biblatex localization (PK/JW/AB)
> t3cmr.fd 2001/12/31 TIPA font definitions
> Xtest.bbl
> eu1lmtt.fd 2009/10/30 v1.6 Font defs for Latin Modern
> ***********
>
> for the version list.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
Howdy,
Never thought of looking that closely. I assumed the difference would be
obvious from the original post.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
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