Some comments from a long time lurker here on this mailing list: I've been following this discussion with great interest but unfortunately it follows the same pattern of many similar discussions in the past. The question on how things could be improved is soon split up into various, often very technical, subdiscussions. Those are often very interesting, but IMO they avoid the main point which should be dealt with.
I don't intend to criticize anybody and maybe I'm stating the super obvious, but all these discussions are moot unless some is actually willing and able to come up and do some coding. The subject of polyglossia has been brought up. I guess we all agree that polyglossia for LuaLaTeX would be a good thing. There also seems to be a consensus that this is technically doable. But this has already been discussed three years ago at least. AFAICS nothing much has happened so far. Similar with microtype for XeTeX. Until I'm mistaken we still only have parts of microtype implemented for XeTeX and only in a beta version of microtype. Again I hear that this should be doable for XeTeX but nothing has happened so far. I may have missed some posts, but so far I've only seen Simon Cozens offering to actually work on improving the situation. As I said, I don't want to criticize anybody for not coming up with working solutions. No one can be blamed if these things don't get done. But I really believe that we had enough of theoretical discussions in the past on how things could be done. What we need is people doing it. I think this kind of discussion should mainly be concerned with the question on how we can create a situation where people actually can deliver solutions. Is it a question of money? Would something like a kickstarter campaign help in finding people who can come up with the needed code? Personally, I'd be more than willing to pledge some code for this. Or is it a question of lack of knowledge (too few people are actually competent enough). Or is it something else? Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club.“ -------------------------------------------------- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
