On 07/27/2015 04:09 PM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 18:10 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
On 07/24/2015 05:58 PM, Dario Faggioli wrote:

So, just to check if I'm understanding is correct: you'd like to add an
abstraction layer, in Linux, like in generic (or, perhaps, scheduling)
code, to hide the direct interaction with CPUID.
Such layer, on baremetal, would just read CPUID while, on PV-ops, it'd
check with Xen/match vNUMA/whatever... Is this that you are saying?

Sort of, yes.

I just wouldn't add it, as it is already existing (more or less). It
can deal right now with AMD and Intel, we would "just" have to add Xen.

So, having gone through the rest of the thread (so far), and having
given a fair amount o thinking to this, I really think that something
like this would be a good thing to have in Linux.

Of course, it's not that my opinion on where should be in Linux counts
that much! :-D   Nevertheless, I wanted to make it clear that, while
skeptic at the beginning, I now think this is (part of) the way to go,
as I said and explained in my reply to George.

I think it's time to obtain some real numbers.

I'll make some performance tests on a big machine (4 sockets, 60 cores,
120 threads) regarding topology information:

- bare metal
- "random" topology (like today)
- "simple" topology (all vcpus regarded as equal)
- "real" topology with all vcpus pinned

This should show:

- how intrusive would the topology patch(es) be?
- what is the performance impact of a "wrong" scheduling data base


Juergen


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