Because I started the installer before burn was available. Nor are the 32-bit installers identical because some 32-bit third-party products we interface with do not work on 64-bit platforms due to device drivers (which must be 64-bit). We are also not using Java. In our case it's native code. Our installer checks the O/S so it is not possible to use our 32-bit installer on a 64-bit platform so there is no potential for conflict there. External CABs are a nuisance for web downloads. Burn would resolve that problem, but we started in pre-burn days and haven't upgraded yet because it hasn't been necessary. At some point we will likely investigate using burn.
Daniel Madill -----Original Message----- From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com] Sent: June-18-13 3:19 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer But why would you make a 64bit installer that installs both, and a second 32 bit installer. I fail to see the benefit of that vs a pure 32 bit installer and a pure 64 bit installer, and then utilize burn to install them when needed. If the files are in fact identical, you can go one step further and use external CABS so you don't even have duplicate Jar's for each MSI. If you have it layed out where the 64 bit MSI installs 32 bit components, what happens if the user then installs an upgraded 32 bit MSI of yours? -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Madill [mailto:dan.mad...@quanser.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:49 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer I use a WiX preprocessor variable for the Win64 attribute value so I can set it in one spot when using the same source for generating a 32-bit and a 64-bit MSI. That makes it easy e.g. Win64=$(var.Win64). Daniel Madill -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hawes [mailto:haw...@anx.com] Sent: June-18-13 2:46 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer Wesley Manning writes: > Curiosity got better of me. It seems that for a 64bit MSI Win64=yes is > assumed so you only need to set the Win64 attribute (= no) for the 32bit > components. > Apparently, it is NOT assumed for <RegistrySearch/>. I've spent half the day spinning my wheels on that one today. > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Madill [mailto:dan.mad...@quanser.com] > Sent: June-18-13 3:23 PM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer > > I install 32-bit components using a 64-bit MSI all the time in order to have > a single MSI that provides support for our APIs to both 32-bit and 64-bit > applications running on a 64-bit O/S. It works just fine. I use WiX > preprocessor directives to build a pure 32-bit MSI for 32-bit platforms and a > mixed 64-bit MSI for 64-bit platforms from the same WiX source. > > Daniel Madill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wesley Manning [mailto:wmann...@dynagen.ca] > Sent: June-18-13 2:17 PM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer > > AFAIK you can have 64bit MSI install 32bit components. But a 32bit MSI can't > install 64bit components. There is a 64bit attribute on the component to say > if its 32bit or 64bit... Just from memory, never had to do this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com] > Sent: June-18-13 12:48 PM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer > > As far as I am aware, it is not possible/supported to install 32 bit > components in a 64 bit MSI. There are unsupported hacks out there, but they > would fail ICE validation and wouldn't be Logo certified. > > If you already have a 64 bit and 32bit MSI, and the 64 bit MSI installs only > 64bit components, then it would be near trivial to setup a Bundle to do the > registry searches you previously wanted to do in a MSI and conditionally > install either the 32 bit or 64 bit MSI on a 64 bit machine. In addition, > this same bundle can be deployed to a 32 bit machine. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:haw...@anx.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:58 AM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer > > My understanding is that a 64bit installer can install 32bit binaries? I am > using this just for 64bit systems. I am already building a separate 32bit > installer for 32bit systems (which only needs to test for JRE version). The > problem I describe below is a 64bit installer which must determine which JRE > is installed on the system, since it is possible to install both a 32bit JRE > and a 64bit JRE. If I need separate installer for this, then forget it. It > will just have to fail if it doesn't find the 64bit JRE. > > > > > Hoover, Jacob writes: > >> You need 2 MSI packages, one for the 64 bit components and one for the x86 >> components. You can utilize burn to do the bitness of the OS test and then >> decide which installer to invoke. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim Hawes [mailto:haw...@anx.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:38 AM >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >> Subject: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer >> >> I have a product that will use a 64bit installer. It uses an exe wrapper for >> the jar files so that the programs can be entered as Windows services and >> the config programs can run from the Start menu. The wrapper requires >> different binaries for the type of JVM installed, 32bit executables for >> runnning the jars under a 32bit JVM, and 64bit executables for running the >> same jars under a 64bit JVM. >> >> The requirements for the 64bit installer is to detect which JVM is >> installed. If it finds the 64bit JRE, it stops there and installs the 64bit >> exe's (and the associated jar files) under ProgramFiles64Folder, upon >> failing that, it should search for the 32bit JRE, and then install the 32bit >> exe's (and associated jar files) under ProgramFilesFolder. >> >> Here is the WiX snippet I have: >> >> <Property Id="JRE64"> >> <RegistrySearch Id="J64REVER" Type="raw" >> Root="HKLM" Key="Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime >> Environment\CurrentVersion" Name="JavaVersion" /> >> </Property> >> >> <Property Id="JRE32"> >> <RegistrySearch Id="J32REVER" Type="raw" >> Root="HKLM" Key="Wow6432Node\JavaSoft\Java Runtime >> Environment\CurrentVersion" Name="JavaVersion" /> >> </Property> >> >> <Condition Message="This application requires Java Version 7 >> or higher"> >> <![CDATA[ (Installed OR JRE32 OR JRE64) AND JRE32 < "1.7" >> AND JRE64 < "1.7" ]]> >> </Condition> >> >> I don't think my condition is right. What I want it to say, in pseudo code, >> is: >> >> IF ( >> (NOT JRE32 OR JRE32 < "1.7") >> AND >> (NOT JRE64 OR JRE64 < "1.7") >> ) >> THEN stop install with the message. >> >> Since it is possible to have both an 32bit JRE and 64bit JRE installed on a >> 64bit system, it is important to check for both, but default to the 64bit >> JRE if it is up-to-date and available. >> >> Thanks! >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> WiX-users mailing list >> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> WiX-users mailing list >> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
