I am just trying to imagine scenarios where the lockout could happen. Because it is happening. I realize that the service is not started but I was thinking that somewhere in the code it is not checking that the service is started or not it is just trying to stop the service.
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:59 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall failure? #1 could happen. #2 could not happen because a) the service isn't started so there's nothing to stop and b) a login is not required to stop the service. #3 could not happen because a login is not needed to remove the service. The credentials are only needed when attempting to start the service. Even if the account is locked while the service is running you may not notice if the service doesn't do anything to authenticate itself such as connect to another service. It's only when loading the security token would it matter. Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Burton <kev...@buyseasons.com> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 8:44:01 AM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall failure? OK it doesn't cause the lockout *directly* but can this happen? 1) Service fails to start because of bad password. (one bad login attempt) 2) Since service does not start it triggers a rollback which first tries to stop the service (second bad login attempt) 3) To remove the service an impersonation attempt is made (third bad login attempt) I think (I will have to verify with the administrator) that the account lockout occurs after three bad login attempts. Kevin Burton Senior Software Engineer BUYSEASONS 262-901-2000 Office 262-901-2312 Fax kev...@buyseasons.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:16 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall failure? InstallServices standard action in itself cannot *directly* cause an account lockout. For that matter, I don't think I've ever ( in 7 years ) seen an install *directly* fail because of InstallServices. StartServices is another story though. If the service can't start for whatever reason, then StartServices can result in a rollback. Also given enough opportunities, a bad password injected by InstallServices can lead to StartServices locking the account. Conversely I've also seen ( at Continental Airlines ) a locked account fail an install because the service could not start. Again, this manifests as a problem in StartServices not I --- Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me ----- Original Message ---- From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" <edwin.cas...@fiserv.com> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 1:08:58 PM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall failure? ServiceInstall is standard functionality provided by Windows Installer. I've never had its use result in an account lockout. In my experience the installer fails after the first time it tries to register the service but fails because the username/password are invalid. I've never experienced it to retry any number of times. Edwin G. Castro Software Developer - Staff Electronic Banking Services Fiserv Office: 503-746-0643 Fax: 503-617-0291 www.fiserv.com P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:50 AM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall failure? > > Since it is so basic can you envision a situation where it would cause an > account lockout? By basic what is the underlying implementation being used? > > Kevin Burton > Senior Software Engineer > BUYSEASONS > 262-901-2000 Office > 262-901-2312 Fax > kev...@buyseasons.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:43 AM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall failure? > > The built in service install of the Windows Installer is pretty basic. One of >the > few standard actions I've seriously considered replacing with a custom action. > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kevin Burton > <kev...@buyseasons.com>wrote: > > > It seems that the default behavior for this code > > > > > > <ServiceInstall Id="BsiServiceInstall" DisplayName="BsiServices Host" > > Name="ServiceExeFile" Description="Windows Service host for Bsi Web > > Services" Interactive="no" Account="[SERVICEUSER]" > > Password="[SERVICEPASSWORD]" ErrorControl="normal" Start="demand" > > Type="ownProcess" Vital="yes" /> > > <ServiceControl Id="BsiServiceControl" Name="ServiceExeFile" > > Start="install" Stop="uninstall" Remove="uninstall" Wait="yes" /> > > > > Is to repeatedly try, even when the password is invalid, until the > > account specified is locked out. I was wondering if there was a way to > > catch the first error and display it to the user. > > > > Also I would like to associate some sort of progress bar with the > > installation and starting of this service. Is there a good reference > > for this type of function? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD > > value)! > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > > price-free! > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. 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