The issues are typically: Debug vs Release builds with different CRT requirements in the manifest (debug not same as release).
People using merge modules, but not the policy merge modules that redirect old versions of the CRT up to the newer one. That means that sometimes you get inconsistent policies. The VCRedists always install policy assemblies to redirect users to the newer versions (last time I looked anyway). Misleading messages. MFC says it won't load, but maybe it's really the C Runtime that won't load, that MFC depends on. The #define_BIND_TO_CURRENT... macros can make things awkward if you have something like the ATL security fix on your system or other updates that are not included in the standard redist. Basically it doesn't matter what MFC/CRT files are on the system when there are policy files redirecting you. You'd have to look at your manifest, then see what MFC policy files are there that might redirect you, and the same for the CRT. Phil Wilson -----Original Message----- From: Tony Juricic [mailto:tjuri...@tradestation.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:36 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Do UFOs visit Install land? Hi Phil, Here are the missing context and details. The app is 32 bit. It was built with C++ redistributables version 9.0.30729.4148. Exactly the same vcredist_x86.exe, that was installed on a build machine before RTM build, is run on end user's machine, before the application-specific MSI install starts. Hundreds of hours of testing of this install was done on pristine OS installs, from 32-bit and 64-bit XP SP2 OS, to equivalent Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 OS. Approximately 4000 users, using 7 OS versions, did run exactly the same setup executable without any problems. It is only about 2 dozen Windows 7 64-bit users that have either this exact, or a similar problem, with the end result that the main app can't find MFC DLL version 9.0.30729.4148 and reports it in Windows Application Event Log as a side-by-side error. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:13 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Do UFOs visit Install land? The C++ runtimes are very specific about what they want. You didn't say what versions you're referring to, but there are people have installed VC++ 2008 redist thinking it will support their VC++ 2005 app (it won't), and, for example, if you have built with VC++ 2008 SP1 the RTM VC++ 2008 redist won't help. They're almost sde by side, just to confuse things more. The app is 32-bit, I assume, but apart from that the UFOs are just hiding the gory details ;=) Phil Wilson -----Original Message----- From: Tony Juricic [mailto:tjuri...@tradestation.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:39 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Do UFOs visit Install land? The title reflects the strangeness of the problem that I am trying to solve. It is not WiX specific but in the broader install community there is higher chance that somebody may have had similar experience. It starts with user installing vcredist_x86.exe on his Windows 7 64-bit. He is sharing his desktop and I see vcredist_x86.exe UI. Installation is declared successful and ARP also shows C++ redistributables as installed. MSI log shows successful install listing CRT, MFC and other Dlls as copied to Windows\winsxs folder on user's machine. Yet, the application won't run because of side-by-side error involving missing MFC dll. 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