Hi there, They are just normal files... The CA is linking to a database that has been copied during install and performing some updates; I've tried putting it after InstallFiles but it seems to be doing it in some patch phase rather than after the files have actually been copied which confused me a lot...
I could post some exerts from the logfiles if that would help? Cheers, Ed Russell CME Product Development Manager Co-operative IT t: +44 (0) 845 458 5007 m: +44 (0) 7976 055 504 f: +44 (0) 1527 880 975 ------------------------------------------ CIT email sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Derek Cicerone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2006 16:17 To: Ed Russell; 'Rob Hamflett'; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Sequencing issue Are the files GACed assemblies or just normal files? If they are normal files then you can just schedule your CA after InstallFiles. What does your CA do? Derek -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Russell Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:08 AM To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Sequencing issue Totally - I want to get it to run before then so it can roll back but can't seem to write the file to make it work anywhere else.... Ed Ed Russell CME Product Development Manager Co-operative IT t: +44 (0) 845 458 5007 m: +44 (0) 7976 055 504 f: +44 (0) 1527 880 975 ------------------------------------------ CIT email sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: 14 June 2006 11:19 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Sequencing issue It doesn't matter if you get it to run when you want, if you sequence it after InstallFinalize you can't roll back the install. That action commits everything to the system, so to remove it you'd be looking at an uninstall. Rob Ed Russell wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'm trying to get a custom action DLL execute after the files from the msi have been installed. No problem there - I can put it after InstallFinalize and it works fine. But I need the install to roll-back if there is an error code generated by the DLL. If I try and sequence it after InstallFiles it runs it in some kind of first pass (doing patching?) not when the actual files have been copied. I've started playing with the "Execute" part of <CustomAction> but it doesn't seem to give the correct results (I've mostly been experimenting with "deferred" which appears to run the DLL at the right time but gets a return code before it looks like it's run it??? I'm very confused and an example of how to sequence this correctly so that rollback et al works correctly would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Ed Russell > > CME Product Development Manager > Co-operative IT > > t: +44 (0) 845 458 5007 > m: +44 (0) 7976 055 504 > f: +44 (0) 1527 880 975 > > ------------------------------------------ > CIT email > sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ________________________________________ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Topley > Sent: 14 June 2006 10:58 > To: 'Christopher Painter'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Extract files from msi (Msiexec,not WIX issue... .) > > While secretly conversing with Derek I have managed to fix my original issue. After running MSI validation from Orca I found a strange error relating to the windows and system folder components... They had no parent! It seems that WIX allowed it to go through and it does in fact copy the files to these places... I have now added TARGETDIR as a directory ref and msiexec /a now extracts all the goodies I want... meaning I can hopefully just build a patch directly off the back of the admin install.. woo hoo! > > Thanks for all the help guys, even if we did go a little off track, it's good to know what other tools are out there as I am sure they will come in useful at some point. > > Kind Regards > > Simon Topley. > > ________________________________________ > From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 June 2006 01:55 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Simon Topley' > Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Extract files from msi (Msiexec, not WIX issue... .) > I agree about VSI MSM's... unfortunatly I'm stuck with about 700 of them. I'm also have about 80 MSM's that were statically written using ORCA because it couldn't be done in VSI and the developer didn't want to use InstallShield. > > It was killing me to be storing MSM's in ClearCase so I tried adopting dark/candle to store XML in ClearCase instead. Although these merge modules pass MSM suite validation dark/candle just doesn't like many of them. What should be a fairly simple task of creating a round trip import/export process ends up consuming hours of time. > > BTW that makes me wonder... is there a custom ICE suite available for running against a database before passing it to Dark? Basically business rules enforced by WiX that go beyond the ones in the platform sdk? > > Chris > > Rob Mensching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The PID_REVNUMBER thing sounds like a bug in dark. > > If you have a valid MSI/MSM file I do expect dark.exe to be able to decompile it. However, candle appears to be far more exact about what it allows one to put into an MSI/MSM than some of the other authoring tools out there (I know this is true about VSI because VSI builds really horrible MSI files). Thus, it may be necessary to "fix" the decompiled source code before being able to recompile it via the WiX toolset. This is a great way to clean up "dirty MSI files" (like those that come out of VSI). > > That said if you build a MSI/MSM (that passes validation) using the WiX toolset, I do expect to be able to round trip back to source code then back to MSI/MSM. My assumption was that Simon was using the WiX toolset already and thus decompiling should work really well. Derek found many bugs in Dark v2 doing this exact process and fixed them in Dark v3. > > If the tools don't work then please file bugs. Nobody here pretends that the WiX toolset is perfect (yet). If you don't want to help make the WiX toolset better then that's your decision. However, I would ask that you let those who are trying to improve the WiX toolset to communicate freely here. This mailing list is about using the WiX toolset and how it should improve. > > One last thing. I agree with Derek's analysis about the bug that was resolved "by design". However, if you disagree and believe a bug really needs to be fixed to improve the WiX toolset then the bug should be discussed here. The goal is to fix the right bugs the right way not hurt people's feelings by rejecting their bugs. > > ________________________________________ > From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Simon Topley' > Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Extract files from msi (Msiexec, not WIX issue... .) > > I made this comment because Rob said: > > "Have you looked at dark (the WiX toolset decompiler)? Dark v3 is particularly solid. It will drop all of the files and .wxs authoring in such a way that the compiler and linker can put it all back together." > > This implied an IJW symbiosis between Dark and Candle and it simply isn't true. Instead of acknowledging that YMMV in the `real world`, the MSM to be decompiled is characterized as `poor authoring`. > > Here is another example. I have a collection 70 MergeModules ( that ALL pass validation ). Each module implements one or many AppSearch patterns. Dark fails to extract the PID_REVNUMBER out of the Summary Information stream on nearly 40% of them. When I try to candle them they fail since they don't have a valid identifier. If I look at the summary info in Orca they are fine. If I export and import using MSI2XML its fine. If I merge the modules into an installer it's fine. > > I've really tried to open the door and fit WiX into my existing installer solution but I just got tired of banging my head against the wall trying to make it work. MSI2XML and MSIDB worked just fine without any effort and I wanted to let Simon know what to expect. > > > Derek Cicerone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christopher, > I'm sorry, but I think its a particularly unfair comment to say that a bug in dark was "scoffed to the side". I believe the particular issue you are referring to dealt with dark creating output that when compiled immediately produced errors. I would like to explain why that was done. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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