No worries Lucy, I imagined that would be the case :)
As I said, I *really* don't want to be causing problems and I hope my email
reflects that..

Thank you for your attention to this, and please do reach out off-list



Kind regards,

*Sam*


User:TheresNoTime <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheresNoTime>

*English Wikipedia: CU/OS*


On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 22:30, Lucy Crompton-Reid <
lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> Just as a quick PS, I feel I should mention that the decisions you refer
> to took place several years before I joined the organisation (as per the
> phabricator thread) and so I will probably need to try to piece
> together why certain things happened with imperfect knowledge...but I will
> certainly do my best!
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 21:39, Sam (TheresNoTime) <s...@theresnotime.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Me again, bear with me...
>>
>> I emailed the list a while back about the IT Development pages, the
>> issues with the Wiki etc. - I've seen today a number of edits (e.g.
>> https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Special:Diff/82820) which attempt to
>> potentially explain the changes, but fall a bit short, as I initially
>> suggested here (https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Special:Diff/82828).
>>
>> I've attempted to fix some of the bigger issues with the wiki (
>> https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room#Recent_changes_to_MediaWiki_namespace_files),
>> but a lot boils down to the fact you're using a very old, insecure version
>> of MediaWiki and PHP (
>> https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room#Installed_versions_of_MediaWiki_and_PHP_are_end-of-life
>> ).
>>
>> In regards to my comments about approaching the WMF to host the Wiki, I
>> had this task pointed out to me (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58938)
>> which I found odd, especially some of the comments by your volunteers.
>>
>> I do not understand why Wikimedia UK migrated from a free, secure,
>> managed MediaWiki installation to a VPS which I assume is either donated or
>> is costing the charity money, and which isn't kept up to date?
>>
>> This doesn't strike me as an effective use of charity funds and volunteer
>> time, and has unfortunately resulted in a MediaWiki install which is
>> outdated and insecure (see CVE-2019-12468
>> <https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2019-12468> as just one example of
>> an exploit against the currently installed version).
>>
>> As the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation, running this MediaWiki
>> installation is likely to "negatively impact the work or image of the
>> Foundation" if exploited. Could someone please help me in understanding the
>> decisions which led to moving away from the WMF infrastructure? Was there a
>> conflict of mission?
>>
>> I appreciate I am "causing waves" here, and I *honestly don't want to be*
>> - Wikimedia UK has been a charity I've supported for quite some time, you
>> do great work and I thank you for your commitment to open access to
>> knowledge!
>> How can we work together to resolve this? I'm fairly available this week
>> and would be more than happy to chat with someone about how we can fix this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Sam*
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