Your memory serves you badly, Michael. MediaWiki imposes no such limit on templates; The Wikipedia article Israel ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel) has 452 reference templates, for example. MediaWiki does impose a limit on the depth of transclusions and the number of expensive parser functions, but those restrictions are unimportant now that we can call a Lua module from within a template to do the same job with much less stress on the server.
"List of rivers of England" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_England) is an example of how about 1500 geographical entries have been organised, so sheer numbers don't necessarily present a barrier to creating wiki articles. As querying Wikidata is not possible at present (and we don't have a date for its implementation), I wouldn't recommend waiting for that before starting work on the Grade II buildings. -- Doug On 12 October 2013 16:13, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, we have all the grade II data for England and the corresponding data > for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, too. However, getting that > information onto Wikipedia in a usable format is not trivial are there are > getting on for half a million building records. > > Automated linkages between Wikipedia and the Monuments Database rely on > each record being represented by a template in Wikipedia, and unfortunately > MediaWiki limits the number of templates to no more than 130 or so (if my > memory serves) per page. That means breaking the records up into such > small lists that navigation becomes a nightmare. Even for the grade II* > buildings we have some areas that have been split into separate pages of > buildings based on name A-M and name N-Z. Such lists are totally hopeless > for users who need to find a particular building and know neither the name > it happens to have been give in the official listing nor even in which > listing area it appears (these are based largely on obsolete county and > other regional boundaries). > > So, yes, it would be good to get these on, but some new approaches will be > needed. Wikidata may well be able to help in the future (eg by providing a > searchable Wiki database which is automatically linked with the various > sources of official data). > > Michael > > > > On 12 Oct 2013, at 15:40, Maarten Dammers wrote: > > > Hi Rod, > > > > Op 11-10-2013 13:05, rodward schreef: > >> Andy, > >> > >> Getting the photos CC licenced would be good, however most > counties/areas don't have lists of GII buildings (certainly not using the > template developed for WLM - although many may be too long for current > template restrictions). Perhaps any communication with EH could include a > request for the data & then the same semi automated development processes > applied to creating the lists (would make it much easier if GII are > included next year). > > I believe we have the data, just haven't imported it yet to Wikipedia > because grade2 buildings weren't included in Wiki Loves Monuments this > year. Now that Wiki Loves Monuments is over we could start importing the > remaining lists to Wikipedia. If lists get to big you just have to split > them up. This is how we did it in the Netherlands too. For example the city > I'm from (Haarlem) has over 1100 Rijksmonumenten. In the centre of the city > this is so dense that I ended up with several lists per street. All these > individual lists are for Haarlem are connected through a navigation > template so you don't get lost. > > > > Maarten > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >
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