Well, at some point we will hit the situation when a typical user can not read an average Wikipedia article during their attention span - which will be a totally different reason.
Best Yaroslav On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 4:23 PM The Cunctator <[email protected]> wrote: > This doesn't make sense - there are more humans on the planet, more people > online, than ever before. The only reason that editorship has declined into > stagnation is because of how unpleasant editing Wikipedia is compared to > how it could be. > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 2:05 PM Todd Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think it's even more simple than that. >> >> There are a limited number of people who would say "You know what I'd >> really like to do in my free time? I want to work on an encyclopedia." >> That's just not something that would be, or ever will be, appealing to >> everyone. >> >> And by now, well, the vast majority of them have at least heard of >> Wikipedia. Maybe some haven't tried it and caught "the bug", but a lot of >> people would try it out and say "Nah, this isn't my thing." >> >> Todd >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 11:38 AM Neurodivergent Netizen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think the reasons for less active editors is primarily because a large >>>> part of common knowledge is already now created and being held in >>>> Wikipedia, unlike at the start and first few years of it's existence. >>>> >>> >>> No, I think the problem is the impenetrable thicket of jargon and >>> bureaucracy and the bias for deletionism. >>> >>> >>> Can’t it be both? >>> >>> Because the more general areas of knowledge is covered, we’re less >>> inclined to be understandable towards newer editors and more inclined to >>> delete. >>> >>> The problem I think we have now is trying to attract subject matter >>> experts, possibly along with their students/proteges, who can contribute >>> reliable sources to Wikipedia. >>> >>> From, >>> I dream of horses >>> She/her >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 4, 2024, at 9:57 AM, The Cunctator <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> No, I think the problem is the impenetrable thicket of jargon and >>> bureaucracy and the bias for deletionism. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, 10:22 AM Thad Guidry <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think the reasons for less active editors is primarily because a >>>> large part of common knowledge is already now created and being held in >>>> Wikipedia, unlike at the start and first few years of it's existence. >>>> >>>> I think generally that as any knowledge base grows, such as Wikimedia, >>>> that edits tend to be fewer as general knowledge articles are set in place, >>>> and thus remains creating only articles that cover the long tail of >>>> remaining knowledge. Hence, we are in a position in many of the larger >>>> language Wikipedia's having less of a need for general article authorship, >>>> and instead a need for creating articles that cover the long tails of >>>> knowledge with domain experts. >>>> >>>> -Thad >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Anders Wennersten <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 8:52 PM >>>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Trend of number of active editor >>>> >>>> We have often discussed the trend of fewer active editors, and some of >>>> us have just discussed this at nowp and swwp and one of my fellow >>>> wikiedian has made a very interesting comparison graph where the >>>> numbers >>>> are normalized according to number of speakers, >>>> https://puu.sh/Kg6xQ.png >>>> >>>> As can be seen av very positive trend on frwp and plwp and reassuring >>>> one on enwp. Do we others have important lessons to be learnt from pl >>>> and frwp? >>>> >>>> Anders >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/Y6WFUJNFNN63QGUDXVJKDK4EMU2GFUDQ/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/MTN6RCBQKX2QF5MMSCSTTECE4BG4MSVB/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/2FISWVQY326DTAO45RCZV5C6BCA5Z7PD/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/MI467VD2FRSN2YOBXN3P2MGRLAEWE5ZO/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/VPT3V3XUJCF73YGRPSTHLWR24VQOH2DV/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/GMLEPE6XOD7N752EKWBLY2DYFLF6R25O/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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