I think that here the proposal is to have a new sister project
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_projects).
There is a long list:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects
The concept behind a new sister project is the capacity to build a
community and an enthusastic group of people.
The policy is here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_project_process
There is nothing about capacity and risk management.
I wanted to encourage Adam after some very demotivating comments and to
look to the positive aspects that, in my opinion, are present in this idea.
To start his project, he needs 10 interested participants / supporters.
Are you interested?
Kind regards
On 15/05/2023 19:16, Risker wrote:
So....how much does it cost to develop and run an entirely new and
different type of project? Who develops it? How much would the
hosting cost on an ongoing basis? Is this project more important and
more needed than an existing project type?
These aren't small questions; they are in fact the questions that need
to be asked every time we come up with an idea (no matter how great
the idea) for a new project type. Contrary to popular belief, there
isn't an unlimited budget, and there aren't unlimited staffing
resources for these things. Everything costs real money and the time
of real people, and we as a broad community need to be far more
cognizant of the limitations of these resources, and the likelihood
that the financial situation is not going to change significantly in
the coming five years.
Personally, I think this is an idea with possibilities, but it is a
very expensive one because it will need an entirely different way of
operating. So...where would be cut costs to make this possible?
Should we close some little-used projects so they no longer draw on
our limited pool of resources? Should we cut back on
volunteer/community safety and resources?
There are always trade-offs. In the WMF annual plan, they talk about
some of those trade-offs. This is another one. New, different
projects need to be able to justify their cost and existence. In fact,
in the not-too-distant future, I can foresee that some minimal-use
projects may also have to justify their existence. I am all in favour
of being visionary - but I'm also in favour of planting these visions
in solid ground.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 12:19, Ilario Valdelli <[email protected]> wrote:
I like the idea.
Sometimes people need a simple answer.
At the moment to receive an answer from Wikipedia for some
articles people need a Phd.
A solution like that can give a smart and quick and understable
answer.
Kind regards
On Mon, 15 May 2023, 11:48 Adam Sobieski,
<[email protected]> wrote:
Wikimedia,
Per the recent interest in and discussions about artificial
intelligence in this mailing list, I am pleased to indicate
the /Wikianswers/ project proposal. The proposal describes
some approaches for integrating these technologies (e.g.,
multimodal dialogue systems, chatbots, and question-answering
systems) with existing Wiki platforms.
"Wikianswers would be a large-scale, user-editable cache of
multimodal answers from artificial intelligence systems, e.g.,
one or more large language models, which tightly integrates
with Wikipedia, Wikidata, and Commons."
This project proposal is described in more detail here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikianswers .
Thank you. Please feel free to review the project proposal and
to comment either here or there with any opinions, questions,
feedback, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Adam Sobieski
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