India is definitely a place Fundraising see's as having a lot of potential in the future, but similarly expectations should be managed.
It may have a population twice the size, but its readership is only a fraction of Europe's. India is also dominated by mobile that has been substantially more difficult when it comes to fundraising (although we are working exceptionally hard in this area). India is a substantially cash driven economy, and the card payments environment has also been in substantial flux over the last 5 years both from a regulatory and alternative payments standpoint. Is there room for growth? Yes definitely and as a team we hope that to see that happen incrementally over the coming years. Ten times larger? Maybe in time. Regards Seddon On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:24 PM Ilario Valdelli <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes but India has probably 2 times the population of the whole Europe... > and cannot be defined like a "poor" country. I Think that the same is valid > also for East Asia. > > No it's not simple to compare but the amount donated in Asia is really > small. > > Kind regards > > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, 15:21 Joseph Seddon, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Correction: Our readership in Macao, QATAR and Singapore; is a fraction > of > > that of the United States. (specifically 1.4% of the USA: Percentage > > remails effectively unchanged). > > > > Seddon > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:17 PM Joseph Seddon <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hey Illario. > > > > > > It is not as simple to simply that the contribution from Asia should be > > 10 > > > times bigger. It is not just about GDP. > > > > > > Our readership from the three countries in the top 10: Macao, Oman and > > > Singapore; is a fraction of that of the United States. (specifically > 1.4% > > > of the USA). > > > > > > Do not get me wrong. Fundraising sees area for potential long term > growth > > > in both Asia and South America but we must be realistic for what that > > > growth is. > > > > > > That's why I gave a long list of the factors that affect the potential > > for > > > fundraising in Asia, Africa and South America. Its a complex equation > > > > > > Regards > > > Seddon > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:58 AM Ilario valdelli <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> I agree in that point. > > >> > > >> Please be back to this millenium. > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) > > >> (updated to 2017). > > >> > > >> Three Asian countries are listed in the top 10. > > >> > > >> And the estimation is to have sooner a fourth: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(PPP)#IMF_estimates_between_2020_and_2023 > > >> > > >> We can say that we have to look at the distribution of GDP, but also > in > > >> this case three countries of the top 10 are Asian: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita > > >> > > >> Honestly there should be from Asia a contribution 10 times bigger in > the > > >> fundraising. > > >> > > >> I think that it's time to say that Asia is a continent that can give > > more. > > >> > > >> Kind regards > > >> > > >> > > >> On 01/10/2018 12:28, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > > >> > I suppose Asia can do a lot better than 3 million, but I don't augur > > >> much > > >> > success with increasing those campaigns for Africa and South > America, > > at > > >> > least using the current model. > > >> > > > >> > Looking by the sample I know in Brazil (last year fundraising > > campaign, > > >> in > > >> > August I believe) the Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia readers often > got > > >> > enraged to the point of vandalizing articles stating their disgust > > for a > > >> > campaign asking money to an impoverished country (even more saying > 10$ > > >> was > > >> > the cost of a coffee there). Others "donated" money or attempted to > > >> donate > > >> > it thinking it was a kind of a fee for being allowed to read > Wikipédia > > >> > (kind of a subscription). > > >> > > > >> > Paulo > > >> > > > >> > Pine W <[email protected]> escreveu no dia domingo, 30/09/2018 > à(s) > > >> 20:30: > > >> > > > >> >> Hi Thea, > > >> >> > > >> >> Thank you for sharing this report. > > >> >> > > >> >> I very much like the visual design, which I think is simple, clear, > > and > > >> >> concise. Who did the design? > > >> >> > > >> >> Regarding the sentences, "We imagine a world in which every single > > >> human > > >> >> being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Each year, with > > >> your > > >> >> support, we edge closer toward that vision.": I suggest removing > the > > >> second > > >> >> sentence because the horizons of human knowledge continue to expand > > at > > >> a > > >> >> significant rate, and I doubt that we have evidence that we're > > keeping > > >> up > > >> >> in every human language with the pace that human knowledge > advances, > > >> let > > >> >> alone moving fast enough to catch up. > > >> >> > > >> >> I'm a bit surprised by the relatively low revenue from regions > other > > >> than > > >> >> North America and Europe. Those look like areas where Fundraising > > >> could be > > >> >> more successful in the future. Does Fundraising have plans to work > on > > >> >> improving revenue from those regions? > > >> >> > > >> >> Congratulations on the success with asking donors to cover > > transaction > > >> >> fees. > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks again for sharing this report. > > >> >> > > >> >> Pine > > >> >> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 10:16 PM Thea Skaff <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>> Hi everyone, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I am writing to share with you our fundraising report for fiscal > > year > > >> >> 2018 > > >> >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2017-18_Report>. > This > > >> >> report > > >> >>> is a collaborative effort on behalf of many teams: fundraising > tech, > > >> ops > > >> >>> and donor services, major gifts, online fundraising, legal, > > >> >> communications, > > >> >>> and more. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> The fundraising report offers us an opportunity to pause and > reflect > > >> on > > >> >>> learnings from last year and also consider where we're headed, > > >> >> particularly > > >> >>> as we approach one of our busiest times of the year for > fundraising. > > >> It's > > >> >>> also an inspiring reminder of how many people across the world > > support > > >> >> the > > >> >>> work of the community and WMF staff. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> We welcome your questions and feedback. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Thank you, > > >> >>> Thea > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> *Thea Skaff* > > >> >>> Fundraising Program Manager > > >> >>> Wikimedia Foundation > > >> >>> 1 Montgomery Street, Suite 1600 > > >> >>> San Francisco, CA 94104 > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > >> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> >>> New messages to: [email protected] > > >> >>> Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > >> , > > >> >>> <mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> >> New messages to: [email protected] > > >> >> Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > >> >> <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> > New messages to: [email protected] > > >> > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > , > > >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> New messages to: [email protected] > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Seddon > > > > > > *Community and Audience Engagement Associate* > > > *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* > > > > > > > > > -- > > Seddon > > > > *Community and Audience Engagement Associate* > > *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> -- Seddon *Community and Audience Engagement Associate* *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
