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JP On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:21 PM Todd Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > Are those applications published anywhere? I'd be curious to see it. I'm > not really familiar with the grant process. > > Todd > > On Oct 16, 2017 12:47 PM, "Jean-Philippe Béland" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > My opinion is that such projects should be supported, we should encourage > > 'be bold'. That being said, people planning projects at a large scale > > should communicate with the concerned communities first. As such, the > > concerns raised in this thread for example would have been raised during > > the planning phase of that project and hopefully addressed. There is a > > place in the application forms for grants for projects that asks to list > > "Community Notification". The Grant Committee should look more closely at > > that section and ensure that the communities have been notified before > > granting any fund. > > > > JP > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > I understand from the original email that the venue was chosen based on > > the > > > fact that it was WMF-funded as a project. I am guessing he's trying to > > pull > > > that leverage. > > > > > > The topic is more generic though: should we support projects that are > > > considered by some to be a little rough on the edges, or should we only > > > pick 'safe' projects that will land well with the community. And how > much > > > of 'be bold' can be applied to projects that operate at a somewhat > larger > > > scale. > > > > > > While this particular topic seems enwp specific, its theme isn't. > > > > > > Lodewijk > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > There is so many threads on this list that are only about English > > > Wikipedia > > > > like it is the centre of the world... Why other communities are able > to > > > > keep their internal discussions internal and not this community? > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe Béland > > > > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Pax Ahimsa Gethen < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The people whose opinion should most matter in determining whether > a > > > > > comment is sexist are women. Not men, and not non-binary > > transmasculine > > > > > people like myself. > > > > > > > > > > I support and echo Emily and Molly's earlier comments on this > thread: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in case it's not clear from my forwarding of > Emily's/Keilana's > > > > >> message, I endorse it completely and am glad she made her points. > > > > >> > > > > >> I agree fully with Keegan and Sydney. I don't think the concerns > > that > > > > this > > > > >> will be overtaken by bots are well-founded; that was planned for > in > > > the > > > > >> document outlining the competition, and editors involved in this > > > project > > > > >> will be subject to all expectations of normal editors (including > not > > > > >> mass-producing poor-quality content). > > > > >> > > > > >> As for Keegan's original post, there is a major difference between > > > > >> describing an email as sexist versus labeling the sender as a > > sexist. > > > I > > > > >> believe Keegan meant the former, and I'm not sure anything he's > said > > > can > > > > >> be > > > > >> described as an attack on the sender so much as a valid criticism > of > > > > poor > > > > >> wording. > > > > >> > > > > >> – Molly (GorillaWarfare) > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 11:44 PM, GorillaWarfare > > > > <gorillawarfarewikipedia@ > > > > >> gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Emily (User:Keilana) is having some trouble getting mails through > to > > > > this > > > > >> list, so I'm forwarding this on her behalf in case it's an issue > > with > > > > her > > > > >> email address. > > > > >> > > > > >> "This is some sexist bullshit. You really think we can't handle > some > > > > >> stubs? And do you really, really think that people won't try to > AFD > > > > >> everything that comes out of this contest as it is? > > > > >> > > > > >> I'm sick and tired of this idea that we have to hold shit about > > women > > > > to a > > > > >> higher standard than literally anything else. The encyclopedia > isn't > > > > going > > > > >> to break because, god forbid, some inexperienced newbies write a > > bunch > > > > of > > > > >> stubs. > > > > >> > > > > >> And so what if people think we're paying lip service to women? > It's > > > > better > > > > >> than being seen as being actively hostile to women, which, as I > > > > shouldn't > > > > >> have to remind you, is our reputation as it currently stands." > > > > >> > > > > >> – Molly (GorillaWarfare) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > - Pax aka Funcrunch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/16/17 10:11 AM, Todd Allen wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Is that still going on? > > > > >> > > > > >> I'm against sexism and all for improving coverage of women on > > > Wikipedia. > > > > >> I've helped to encourage events toward that end, and they've > turned > > > out > > > > >> pretty well. We now have quite a few more articles, for example, > on > > > > women > > > > >> involved as pioneers in outdoor sports and activities because of > > them. > > > > >> > > > > >> But I'm unsure how asking the question "Is it wise to offer money > in > > > > >> exchange for creating large numbers of articles without > > consideration > > > of > > > > >> quality?" or "Will this effort have the intended result?" is > sexist. > > > The > > > > >> same question would apply if the proposed articles were about > > Russian > > > > >> literature or asteroids. It is not sexist to ask the question just > > > > because > > > > >> of what the subject happens to be. > > > > >> > > > > >> I think that needs to be discussed, not sidetracked by calling > > people > > > > >> sexists. If people really were making sexist statements, I'd be > all > > > for > > > > >> shutting that crap down. But I've seen not one such statement in > > this > > > > >> thread. > > > > >> > > > > >> Todd > > > > >> > > > > >> On Oct 16, 2017 10:28 AM, "Robert Fernandez" < > > [email protected]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> So those who call out sexism are the real sexists, amirite? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I am fed up with this double standard in the way we talk about > > these > > > > >>> issues. Some people are allowed to make broad, unsupported, > > sweeping > > > > >>> generalizations about the motives and actions of others and > that's > > > > >>> considered just fine, but if you call them out in even the > gentlest > > > > tones > > > > >>> it's treated as some horrific personal attack, and censure and > > > > apologies > > > > >>> are demanded. We've culturally internalized sexism so much that > > even > > > > the > > > > >>> way we talk about sexism is sexist. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Vi to <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> But just a note: using the same behavior of phenomena you're > > trying > > > to > > > > >>>> contast is, per se, a clear defeat. > > > > >>>> To be more clear, blind -because you obviously don't know > > *nothing* > > > > >>>> about > > > > >>>> their backgrounds- vilification of other's opinions is, > > > incidentally, > > > > >>>> one > > > > >>>> the of the main instruments of "cultural" sexism. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > > -- > > > > > Pax Ahimsa Gethen | [email protected] | http://funcrunch.org | > > > Pronouns: > > > > > they/them/their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik > > > > > i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe Béland > > > > > > > > [image: Wikimedia Canada] Vice-président — Wikimédia Canada > > > > <https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=fr>, chapitre > > national > > > > soutenant Wikipédia > > > > Vice president — Wikimedia Canada > > > > <https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=en>, national > chapter > > > > supporting Wikipedia > > > > 535 avenue Viger Est, Montréal (Québec) H2L 2P3, > [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jean-Philippe Béland > > > > [image: Wikimedia Canada] Vice-président — Wikimédia Canada > > <https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=fr>, chapitre national > > soutenant Wikipédia > > Vice president — Wikimedia Canada > > <https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=en>, national chapter > > supporting Wikipedia > > 535 avenue Viger Est, Montréal (Québec) H2L 2P3,[email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
