So we are talking about dead/small projects now?
I work on many of them and I think that what WMF is mainly rationalization.
It's not about just turning them off but merging, interacting or rebranding
many times. IMHO. The problem are both the few user active on them which are
proud and they want to loose their "little space" and the snob attitude of
users on big wikipedias. Such a pity, there is plenty of room for improvement
once you go beyond the simplest black/white scenario. I guess people just need
time to think of the platform as an ecosystem, where really few things needs to
be removed, whilst it does require flexibility to integrate and rethink them.
I hope new generation of users will help us in going that directions. i am
still wondering why we don't have a unified cross-language platform for some of
them yet. I don't care if in 2003 or 2004 someone was unable to understand
English... we had commons, wikidata, SUL... seriously talk to newbies and get
over it. I am not citing any platform specifically here, just to avoid long
mails defending the status quo. Let's leave colonel Kurtz in the jungle, he
will get tired one day.
But about wikinews for example, I make interviews on itwikinews. Not recently,
but I have a long list of option when i have more time. I link them to the
articles, they looks fine as an integration. Also they are a wonderful way to
establish different connections. So sad noone uses it, because they could. The
news part has low activity, but for example it still attracts new young users.
One of the most motivated young WMI members comes from the "poor" itwikinews.
He's very young yet he organized an event, specifically in an area where
wiki.activities were missing since a decade. Without the freedom of wikinews,
he would have needed much time to get the same level of confidence. I don't
think that itwikipedia users understand these aspects, do they? So can you find
me a replacement for that? And please notice, i am not defending my little
garden here, I just work there sometimes and I see things that are useful to
preserve. Can you do it somehow, while closing it? That's what I need to know.
Il Mercoledì 26 Aprile 2017 12:16, David Gerard <[email protected]> ha
scritto:
On 26 April 2017 at 09:23, Andrea Zanni <[email protected]> wrote:
> Last time I remember we had a discussion¹ was September 2011 (!):
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/thread.html
Everyone interested in Wikified news should read the Wikinews threads
in that page.
That's where the complaint that Wikinews is process-heavy comes from.
But it really isn't process-heavy at all, if you look at the actual
process. The blocker appears to have been insufficient or careless
reviewers. (Japan getting a new Prime Minister apparently not being
relevant to Wikinews because the sources weren't in English.)
You'll also see numbers as to why it looks like a dead project from
any reasonable outside perspective.
- d.
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