Keegan and Oliver (again), I've communicated a bit with Keegan off list, and I appreciate the feedback from both of you. I intended to say something conciliatory, I didn't put much thought into how I put it, and I achieved the opposite effect. I'm sorry. I should have known better.
For whatever it's worth, I don't presume to speak for anybody, and I don't have any illusion that my personal communication gives me special insights unavailable to others. I can see how my message would give that impression though. What I DO believe is that currently, we have stronger lines of communication among a lot of people than we're used to, and I think that can be a positive force in both finding common cause and hearing individual voices. Suggesting that anything would compensate for somebody not actively representing themselves, though, was a mistake. The two points don't really connect, and I shouldn't have tried. Anyhow -- this thread was never meant to be about me, so I'll leave it at that. (The subject line I chose was bad as well -- it puts way too much emphasis on "my" role.) If either of you, or anybody else who was offended by my words, feels that I'm still missing something, please let me know offlist. -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 to Keegan. I am glad you have spoken to staffers, Pete. I promise I > can identify at least 300 other people that fall into that category > too. > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Keegan Peterzell > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Still, my list is very much influenced by what I > >> have heard from staff, board, etc. over many months -- so it's not like > >> your seat is getting cold without you. :) > >> > > > > My seat without me in it would be the very definition of it getting cold > > without me in it, not to be glib. Your presumptions are starting to be > > offensive. > > > > I am a person. I am a Wikimedian on my own,[0] apart from my role in my > > signature line. > > > > I think what we need to *first* do is stop pigeonholing individuals, and > > then presuming to know their opinions based on said hole placement, which > > was the point of my initial email: do not presume to know what those who > > are not speaking right now are thinking, and wait to hear from them. But > I > > guess you're missing the point. > > > > I know you're going to say that's not what you're intending to do, but > it's > > exactly what you're saying. > > > > Slow down. There are plenty of leaders with thoughts in this movement, > give > > everyone space. > > > > 0. > > > https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Keegan&project=en.wikipedia.org&uselang=en > > > > -- > > Keegan Peterzell > > Community Liaison, Product > > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
