I will be happy to learn of any specific and measurable new goals WMF has
for movement communications and specific plans for how those goals will be
achieved. I agree that vague statements about improved communication are
insufficient.

Pine
On Oct 3, 2015 8:36 PM, "Craig Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I take your point Pine, but "improving communication with the community"
> seems to have been a WMF priority for as long as I can remember, yet there
> doesn't seem to have been any consistent improvement, as we can see here.
> A new approach and direction to how matters like this are communicated is
> clearly needed, because the current one doesn't seem to be working at all.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
> On 4 October 2015 at 13:25, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Sigh. Decisions being made behind closed doors and then being announced
> > much later than they should have been is a bit of a WMF pattern that I
> > would like to see addressed. My understanding is that Lila is putting
> some
> > emphasis on improved communications in Q2, and I would be interested in
> > seeing some specific measures put in place to address the kind of
> situation
> > that seems to have happened again here.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Craig Franklin <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You could excuse the Perth and Manila bid teams for being very angry at
> > > having wasted a lot of time and energy when the decision was apparently
> > > made behind closed doors weeks ago.  Even if you think the idea of
> > getting
> > > rid of the expensive bid process is a good idea (and I do), the way
> that
> > > this was not communicated to the community is simply abominable.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > On 4 October 2015 at 08:13, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Evidently the Signpost has scooped the WMF by revealing that Montreal
> > has
> > > > been selected for the 2017 Wikimania host city in a secret process
> that
> > > > completed this past August. [1]
> > > >
> > > > It seems like the community could have been looped into this new
> method
> > > > before it was a done deal.
> > > >
> > > > ~Nathan
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-30/News_and_notes
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