Tinu, I sincerely apologize for the way you took my reply. What I meant is lets not make the event look like a chapter hosted event, why can't be en wp (unless some situation like Coimbatore happens. I really have seen you guys working hard. A really clean site like the current one doesn't come from nowhere. But, I felt moving it en wp to Wikimedia.in will be of any great use. Bangalore wiki meet ups are the places where I started from, and I never felt it's bad for the other languages. I still think it's essential to have the meet ups in en wp.
Sent from my iPhone On 10/02/2012, CherianTinu Abraham <[email protected]> wrote: > Subhashish, I guess you have got it wrong. > > Since you had asked me this off-list earlier and I was unavailable to > comment, let me clarify your doubts here. > > The intention to move the meetup pages to wiki.wikimedia.in is to not to > increase the popularity of the "chapter wiki", but to keep the meetup and > academy pages in a centralized space for most of the Wikimedia activities > in India. Request to not fall into assumptions. > > Please note that I personally started contributing aggressively to > wiki.wikimedia.in even before I became a member of the chapter let alone a > board member. We hosted the India Community newsletter "WikiPatrika" on > wiki.wikimedia.in because we believed in a centralized space for all > Wikimedia activities in India. > > There was an increasing misconception that Bangalore Wikimeetups is > essentially becoming a English Wiki-meetup, because of its existence on > English Wikipedia. You must have seen your request to create Coimbatore > Meetup page on en.wiki was rejected and was instead created on meta, so > that it more neutral to Tamil editors. [1] > > The first Wiki meetup in Bangalore , which Jimbo Wales attended was > primarily an English Wikipedian meetup in 2006. [2]. When I started the > regular meetups in 2009 , I followed suit to create a page on English > Wikipedia only [3]. But over time, at least a few of lndic language > Wikipedians, have told that it is becoming a primarily English Wikipedia > Meetup due to event page on en.wiki and also the contents of the talks. > There is another school of thought that it should be hosted in Kannada > Wikipedia, as it is happening in Bangalore. I don't see even a single > meetup page hosted on Commons, the Wikimedia repository, as you say. > > The other option was to move to meta, ( Like London Meetups [4] ) but > awareness of meta wiki in India is very less. You might have also noticed > that other meetups around the world are moving away from being hosted on > en.wiki [5]. The other problem is to orally publicize the meetup pages to > others. Definitely http://en.wikipedia.org/WP:MBL42 is less confusing than > wiki.wikimedia.in/Bangalore. I am trying to see if we can redirect > wikimedia.in/Bangalore to wiki.wikimedia.in/Bangalore so that it will be > more helpful for many. > > The wiki.wikimedia.in is an Indian Wikimedia Community wiki ( although it > hosts lots of chapter information for the public), *editable by anyone*. > There is an another restricted members wiki at members.wikimedia.in . > Anyone can create an account on Wiki.wikimedia.in . The reason why editing > was restricted to only email confirmed registered users, was to prevent > spam. It take less than 30 sec to create an account and get the email > confirmed on wiki.wikimedia.in . In spite of this, me , Gautam ,Naveen and > Tanvir ( not even an Indian) are fighting daily with blocking spam bot > accounts, which are creating hundreds of accounts and spam pages every > month. If we have enough volunteers to fight spam on wiki.wikimedia.in , I > see no problem is making it editable for non-registered users. Feel free to > volunteer and help us. > > Last, no body is forcing anyone to move to wiki.wikimedia.in. Let the local > communities decide. > > Please understand that I am not forgetting your great contributions to > Bangalore community and meetups. We are sincerely thankful for your great > efforts and still cherish them... We deeply miss you in Bangalore. > > Regards > Tinu Cherian > > > > > Notes > 1) > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-February/006820.html > 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore1 > 3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore3 > 4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London > 5) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Meetup_list > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> +1 with Anirudh. >> >> I completely understand that the chapter need to reach people, but the >> goal is bring more active editors and not increasing popularity of the >> chapter. >> >> An article in en wp has more visibility and users can easily sign up, the >> question which will arise in a newbie is: >> >> - Do I need to become a member of Wikimedia India to sign up for this >> event or edit Wikipedia? >> - Just because the chapter is located in Blore, all the academy which >> involves participation of chapter members are posted in a Wiki page which >> shows "source" instead of "Edit"? >> >> IMHO pls post the academies in a single place (en wp) will be the best >> place, if it is for a language then let that be in the language WP, else >> if >> it's for commons then let it be in Commons. >> >> On 10 February 2012 14:53, Anirudh Bhati <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think it would be a good idea to keep the English Wikipedia updated >>> as well. That is likely to attract the attention of those contributors >>> who >>> are not as deeply involved with Wikimedia India. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> anirudh >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-in-blr mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-blr >>> >>> Subha >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-in-blr mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-blr >> >> > Best Subha _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-in-blr mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-blr
