OK so I've finally found some time to sit at my computer and write a proper reply. I will refrain from addressing Z.'s concerns on my eligibility as a scholarship recipient (and all the related sarcasm) for Wikimania 2023 as I have already replied to that on the renamed thread "selection criteria".
I read through the comments on gender policy in this thread and I'm afraid that I will have to be somewhat explicit to get my point across. I am 56 years old (my friend interested in attending Wikimania23 is several years older) and I have been to many conferences on four continents, I'd say over a hundred (not all Wikimedia-related of course). I am a cis-gender woman - apologies if I'm not using the right terms, until recently "woman" or "female" was enough to describe what I am - and naturally I have used dozens of women's restrooms (and locker rooms occasionally). Not once have I experienced a disturbing incident involving a man or male in a space designated for women because quite simply, I have never seen a man - a male-presenting individual, that is - using the space (except for the occasional "emergency", whereby the male uses the women's toilet and apologises for doing so if he encounters a woman while "relieving" himself. I've had to do the same on a few occasions in the men's toilets). Such was the situation in the *pre*-self-identification era. It is very possible that throughout the years I have encountered trans women in the women's restrooms without even being aware of it: a female-presenting trans individual in a space designated for women is naturally, perfectly acceptable and no cause for concern. In the era of self-identification however, an individual who presents as a man - with a beard etc. features of a male physique - can self-identify as a woman (female) and proceed to use spaces designated for women. So, in the hypothetical case that this man who identifies as a woman exits the bathroom stall with his penis in his hand, shaking off the extra urine (apologies for being explicit) - a frequent and non-offensive action in men's restrooms, especially those with urinals - encounters a woman and the woman is offended, would she be entitled to express her discomfort to Trust and Safety? (apologies if the name of the dept has changed, that's the name I remember). Or would she get a reply along the lines of "we understand that you feel offended and that you experienced discomfort from the encounter, but our gender policy is self-identification and this man identifies as a woman so (s)he can use the women's restrooms and there's nothing we can do about it". Same goes for AFAB individuals who are female-presenting but identify as men. A man using the men's toilets may feel discomfort at the sight of e.g. period blood and pads (again, apologies for the explicitness!) in a stall. I have tried to describe the issue as respectfully as possible. Again, apologies for being explicit, it was inevitable. I do agree that *generally* Wikipedians are respectful of others and would *generally* not intentionally cause discomfort to others using gender-designated toilets - or worse yet, go so far as to harass - but if norms of common decency were self-evident to everyone, there would be no need for a Trust and Safety dept in the first place. Best, Mina <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Χωρίς ιούς.www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 8:25 AM Željko Blaće <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear organizers - for the (self announced) transparency plan commitment of > publishing list of scholarship grantees in May - it would be useful to do > it at least in June as we are almost in July. > > It would also likely reduce the number of repeating questions. > > Best Z. Blace > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 7:15 AM Mohd Sayeed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Did u get the scholarship? > > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 12:05 AM Aryan Kumar Paswan < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> trip to singapore kindly share list of candidate and is it free of cost? > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 22:52 Wikimania <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi everyone, > >>> > >>> > >>> Many of you are starting to plan your trips, and we’ve been receiving > a lot of questions related to travel to Singapore: visas, vaccines, hotels, > weather… We invite you to take a look at our Travel page on the Wikimania > Wiki, with subpages for e-visas, attendee information, and accommodations. > Feel free to leave a message on any relevant talk pages or reach out to us > at [email protected] if anything is unclear or incomplete. > >>> > >>> > >>> To highlight one point–many countries are visa-free for Singapore, but > everyone needs to fill out a Singapore entry card before arrival. Also > Singapore requires a yellow fever vaccine from many countries–please see if > yours is on the list! > >>> > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> > >>> Butch Bustria > >>> > >>> On behalf of the Core Organizing Team > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimania-l mailing list -- [email protected] > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimania-l mailing list -- [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list -- [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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