jeez*, if people feel offended by a loud voice, and instead of moving away are prompted to formally complain, and if a touch on the shoulder is considered harrassment, something is deeply wrong. Let's _not_ cultivate sensitivitism by way of a badges-turned set of interdictions. It's like in constitutional law: Practical concordance = people's sensitivities must take 2nd place where to "respect" them becomes unworkable for the rest of the world.
*bearing in mind what Lodewijk said about not knowing the full story Am Fr., 20. Juli 2018 um 19:12 Uhr schrieb Mina Theofilatou < [email protected]>: > I have just read through the long thread of replies and I am appalled that > Romaine was asked to "step down" for safety concerns of an individual (or > several individuals?) arising from his standing too close or speaking too > loud or whatever. Is THIS really a behaviour that can put someone at risk? > And if a risk has been identified out of such, may we please be informed by > the SuSa team not of the details, but at least of the supposed risk? > > Romaine is the first person I ever met at my first Wikimania (Mexico City) > and he is always on his feet all day doing a million different things to > facilitate the event. He is sweet, helpful, with a great sense of humour > and I can't imagine that anyone who has been to so much as a single > Wikimania would think otherwise. So, very plainly and openly, as we are > accustomed in the open movement we so passionately follow, may we please > have an explanation as to which "friendly space" code of conduct he has > breached to deserve being asked to step down? And on top of that, being > further stressed by the criticism that he has been e in ths thread? The > only GOOD thing that I see as possibly resulting from this discussion was > what Florence (if I recall correctly) suggested: a sticker indicating which > people are offended by loud speaking and close proximity, so that,this > doesn't happen again (a sticker which I will most certainly NOT be sporting > on my badge) > > Romaine, a big THANK YOU for all that you do for Wikimanias. I always look > forward to "brushing shoulders" with you. A big warm hug from your Greek > friend :) > > Mina > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, 18:21 Federico Leva (Nemo), <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Devouard (gmail), 20/07/2018 12:18: >> > So, I am thinking that... whilst some of us put little stickers on our >> > badges to indicate we do not want to be taken in picture, perhaps we >> > need to consider also little stickers to put on our badges to indicate >> > that we prefer "a certain physical distance" and warn others that we >> may >> > be sensitive to closeness so they be aware it might be an issue ? >> >> +1, this is a suggestion worth exploring (is there a feedback page >> already on the wiki, where to add it?). >> >> If you see a "fi-N" on someone's badge you may remember the advice >> "Never hug, kiss or touch a Finn" >> <http://www.ediplomat.com/np/cultural_etiquette/ce_fi.htm>, but not >> everybody may be expected to walk around with a cultural etiquette >> matrix for 200 cultures. >> >> (At Wikimania I usually also wear Wikiquote and sister project stickers >> and pins so that people are warned that, if they use language which >> assumes "Wikipedia" or "English [Wikipedia]" or other discriminations of >> some projects, I will definitely take offense and object to it.) >> >> Federico >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >
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