It doesnt sound like it was good application of process, I think that this could have been solved simply when the issue was raise with as Romaine has already done explained and apologised his support should have continued. It looks bad as someone who isnt there and knows Romaine that issue is be blown out this much, I think its one that must be resolved today rather than sometime in the future after the event when everyone has gone home.
Romaine right to have come to the list so that it gets the immediate attention it needs, that is seeking help. Leaving until after the event isnt going to resolve anything all its going to do is allow it to linger and fester potentially causing even more drama. I think its beholden to the organisers or at least the Trust & Safety team leaders to seek out the parties involved rather than let this continue. On 20 July 2018 at 17:02, David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know Romaine personally but with the limited information I have it > seems that a small series of incidents have been blown out of proportion. > It saddens me that when asking to respect diversity and sensitivities, not > all volunteers seem to have the same weight. People taking responsibilities > also need to be taken care of, we cannot ask them to conform to fixed > ideas, there should be some room to be oneself. As John said it is > necessary that we are tolerant with small transgressions, otherwise we are > creating a prison to ourselves based on the sensitivities of others. > > I only hope that this has been escalated progressively, and that there was > an open communication at all stages of the process. > > Cheers, > Micru > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:37 AM Luca Martinelli <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Il giorno ven 20 lug 2018 alle ore 10:23 Lodewijk >> <[email protected]> ha scritto: >> > As part of this conversation, both here online and offline, I seem to >> hear several people who are unhappy with how the policy is implemented. Let >> us also recognize that it is important to have a friendly space - and that >> this is a Hard Thing to accomplish. Agreeing or disagreeing in public with >> a decision while only having part of the information can only make that job >> harder and/or harm individuals. >> > >> > If you have beef with the policy and how it is implemented, I suggest >> that you try to set up a meetup with the Trust & Safety team, and you can >> have a conversation with them about the broader policy. They can perhaps >> share some rough broader statistics as part of that. Otherwise, it is >> probably more appropriate to have this online discussion after the >> conference has concluded, based on the policy and practices as a whole, and >> not an individual case. >> >> First of all, I apologise for my first message, because I >> misunderstood Romaine's announcement: I thought it was a voluntary >> step down, not a *request* for it. >> >> This all the more saddens me, as I have worked briefly with Romaine as >> voluntary on the first day of Wikimania 2016, and I had the >> opportunity of seeing first-hand how dedicated and sweet and full of >> joy and energy as a volunteer he might be. >> >> Even if I agree with Lodewijk this is not the place to "overrun" the >> decision of the T&S Team, or discuss/amend/whatever Wikimania's Safe >> Space Policy, I'd like to get my message considered as a public >> display of thankfulness and appreciation for Romaine's work throughout >> the years, not as an explicit critic to anyone - but to be fully >> honest, I'm quite puzzled by the decision nonetheless. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Luca "Sannita" Martinelli >> http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Sannita >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > -- GN. Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Out now: A.Gaynor, P. Newman and P. Jennings (eds.), *Never Again: Reflections on Environmental Responsibility after Roe 8*, UWAP, 2017. Order here <https://uwap.uwa.edu.au/products/never-again-reflections-on-environmental-responsibility-after-roe-8> .
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