The evaluation team did something a bit like this for 2014: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Wikimania_2014_Participant_Survey_-_Data_Summary.pdf
*Edward Saperia* Founder Newspeak House <http://www.nwspk.com> email <[email protected]> • facebook <http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia> • twitter <http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia> • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG On 22 October 2016 at 12:05, Andrew Lih <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, this kind of “journal” or mega-report is what we are planning to > do for Wikiconference North America 2016, in that not only do we want to > report back to the WMF what we did with the original grant, but we wanted > to document best practices for future conferences. This also lets partners > (San Diego Public Library and Balboa Park museums) know what we did > during the conference so they can evaluate the ROI of in-kind donations and > collaborations. It won’t happen immediately, but hopefully by the end of > the year for an October conference. > > -Andrew > > > -Andrew Lih > Associate professor of journalism, American University > Email: [email protected] > WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com > BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com > PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Lodewijk <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hey Gnagarra, >> >> Thanks for the clarification. The report would therefore be quite a >> costly business, if you expect it to be executed by paid staff. And it >> would probably go at the expense of what they would otherwise be doing. >> 6-12 months is by the way a very long time to publication! >> >> Could you therefore clarify a bit better what your intended goals are >> besides satisfying curiosity of people like you and me? Because I surely >> can imagine I would appreciate such report as well, I'm just not sure I'd >> consider that enough to produce it :) But if you could find additional >> valued for it, who knows! >> >> Best, >> Lodewijk >> >> 2016-10-22 12:27 GMT+02:00 Gnangarra <[email protected]>: >> >>> Its not something that a volunteer could be expected to manage as it >>> would need a dedicated person with resources to follow up with those >>> involved and collate all the information >>> >>> I would see it as something done by the WMF either by their Wikimania >>> team or the media team given the WMF already do a fair portion now for >>> reporting, realising that it would probably 6 months to year finish, even >>> then it wouldnt capture all the benefits which take even longer to >>> materialise. Once published the Wikimania wiki could be closed down. The >>> audience is the community, as well as those looking to be involved in a >>> wikimania in the future also anyone that wants to see how international >>> events are organised and our donars. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22 October 2016 at 18:09, Lodewijk <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Gnagarra, >>>> >>>> (changing topics here as we're going on a tangent) >>>> in an attempt to avoid/limit additional work for organizers that are >>>> totally worn out at the end of a cycle: >>>> - What would be your intended use for such document/journal? >>>> - What would be the intended readership >>>> - Would you imagine volunteering to organize such journal, even if >>>> you're not on the organizing team? After all, anyone could collect such >>>> information together. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Lodewijk >>>> >>>> 2016-10-22 12:06 GMT+02:00 Gnangarra <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> It would be nice to see past events wrapped up into one journal >>>>> covering all aspects from original discussion until the final reporting of >>>>> the event including financials, attendee reports and media reports at the >>>>> moment everything is spread across chapter, foundation, event pages which >>>>> means lessons, pitfalls, successes, the work involved over time arent >>>>> where >>>>> people can find easily >>>>> >>>>> On 22 October 2016 at 17:56, rupert THURNER <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> the points lodewijk mentioned with styles, and independent user >>>>>> groups working on it are quite valid points imo. additionally the purpose >>>>>> of a wiki is to collaborate on a purpose. if the purpose is gone, no wiki >>>>>> software is necessary. following that logic, one could argue to dump a >>>>>> past >>>>>> wikimania wiki into a static html page is best. search could be done via >>>>>> standard web search. if the wikis are not disturbing one could let them >>>>>> just sit where they are. >>>>>> >>>>>> rupert >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Lodewijk < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The discussion has now been moved to https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>>>>> wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Wikimania_wikis apparently, where it will >>>>>>> probably also get archived not too distant in the future. I hope someone >>>>>>> will post a link here to that archive page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lodewijk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2016-10-22 11:07 GMT+02:00 Rehman Abubakr <[email protected] >>>>>>> >: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (cross-posting to Wikimania-l and Wikimedia-l) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As earlier discussions on this topic received relatively little >>>>>>>> response from the community, I'm sending this email to let you know >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> the new topic posted at https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>>>>>> wiki/Meta:Babel#Wikimania_wikis, with regards to having a single >>>>>>>> unified Wikimania wiki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have copied the original post below for ease of reading. Please >>>>>>>> post your comments on the meta page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. I was looking at Special:SiteMatrix >>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix> and couldn't >>>>>>>> help noticing the whopping 14 separate wikis (and growing) for all the >>>>>>>> different Wikimanias, including a separate wiki for a "Wikimania >>>>>>>> team". Is >>>>>>>> there any current plans of a more sustainable or streamlined approach >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> running these wikis? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am aware that this has been discussed a few times before, but no >>>>>>>> significant effort was put into it. Wikimania project domain >>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_project_domain> is the >>>>>>>> most significant discussion which I could find, but participation was >>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>> low on that, with no(?) WMF staff comments. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From what I understand from the above linked discussion, some key >>>>>>>> points against a unified Wikimania wiki was that: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. We will not be able to preserve old Wikimania wikis as a "time >>>>>>>> capsule" >>>>>>>> 2. Older Wikimania organizers may face new organizers >>>>>>>> "steamrolling" over their pages >>>>>>>> 3. Organizers will not have complete control over the site as old >>>>>>>> admins might interrupt for whatever reasons. (or vice versa) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My though for these points was: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Why not have each Wikimania project branch their pages as >>>>>>>> wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016/Main page, or alternatively, >>>>>>>> have separate namespaces for each project (i.e. 2016:, 2017:, etc). We >>>>>>>> could then protect all pages under a project (i.e. 2016/ or 2016:) >>>>>>>> once a >>>>>>>> project is over. >>>>>>>> 2. This could be avoided by protection, as stated above. >>>>>>>> 3. Make it much less complicated. Once the project is over, all >>>>>>>> previous admin rights will be revoked, and the new organizers will get >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> rights. New admins can be advise to not modify previous project >>>>>>>> namespaces, >>>>>>>> or if better, if we can block previous projects' namespaces from >>>>>>>> editing? >>>>>>>> Furthermore, there could be a bot logging all changes made to old >>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>> namespaces, for transparency. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any other views on this? Did I miss something obvious? >>>>>>>> Looking forward to your comments. Cheers, Rehman. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> User:Rehman <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> GN. >>>>> President Wikimedia Australia >>>>> WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra >>>>> Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> GN. >>> President Wikimedia Australia >>> WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra >>> Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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