Maybe it's because it's 2:30 am here, but I can't figure out how to follow
those instructions. Can you just fix it and resend?
On Feb 11, 2013 2:25 AM, "James Forrester" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh, whoops. I moved the pre-amble down to be "notes", and somehow it's
> back. My apologies.
>
> Everything between "== Preamble ==" and "However, no real discussion
> has taken place, and it's clear" can be ignored.
>
> J.
>
> On 10 February 2013 18:22, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think this email has been corrupted...
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2013 2:15 AM, "James Forrester" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> [Please note that I send this as a volunteer, and in no connexion to
> >> the Wikimedia Foundation.]
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> == Preamble ==
> >>
> >> Last year, after some discussion on this list[0] and other places, I
> >> felt we as a community had said we were unhappy with the traditional
> >> ad-hoc system for selecting the location for each year's Wikimania,
> >> and wanted something different, a process that involved the community
> >> and was more transparent, clearer and possibly set out candidate areas
> >> or countries rather than inviting interested bids alone. In the hope
> >> that the community would self-organise along these lines, I haven't
> >> done anything to re-run the existing system.
> >>
> >> However, no real discussion has taken place, and it's clear
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [0] -
> >>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2011-November/003225.html
> >> etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's getting towards the end of November, which means it is time to
> >> run the Wikimania bidding process for 2013[0].
> >>
> >> Given the traditional absence of a formal system, I'm putting myself
> >> forward as Jury[1] co-ordinator - a non-voting person who helps the
> >> Jury form and Bids get started up, sets the timeline[2], and hopefully
> >> makes sure everything happens smoothly.
> >>
> >> In this role, I would like to make two requests:
> >>
> >> Firstly, I'm sure the whole Wikimedia community would love to see as
> >> many good bids as possible. There are already a few bids[3] on Meta,
> >> but if you or your local community are thinking about putting one in,
> >> I'd urge you to get started now - there's not much time left before
> >> new bids will not be accepted. Making a good bid for Wikimania can be
> >> a lot of work, but we all benefit from there being a strong field of
> >> bids.
> >>
> >>
> >> Secondly, [Please note that I send this as a volunteer, and in no
> >> connexion to the Wikimedia Foundation.]
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I write again to ask for people to submit bids to host Wikimania in
> >> 2014[0], and also to serve on the Jury to select which bid will be
> >> chosen, in my traditonal .
> >>
> >>
> >> == Request for bids ==
> >>
> >> As always, the whole Wikimedia community would love to see as many
> >> good bids as possible. There are only two bids[1] on Meta, so if you
> >> or your local community are thinking about putting one in, or
> >> re-submitting one that is now withdrawn, I'd urge you to get started
> >> right away - there is very little time left. Making a good bid for
> >> Wikimania can be a lot of work, but we all benefit from there being a
> >> strong field of bids.
> >>
> >> I have updated the timeline[2] to have an (extremely) foreshortened
> >> pre-bidding process, which means that all provisional bids must be
> >> created by 23:59 UTC 3 March 2013 at the latest - i.e., three weeks'
> >> time from when this e-mail was written. I appreciate that this is
> >> short notice, but it's very important to give the winning bid the time
> >> to make a success, and the idea of bidding for Wikimanias should not
> >> be completely new to everyone by now.
> >>
> >>
> >> == Request for Jury volunteers ==
> >>
> >> I would like to invite volunteers to serve on the Wikimania 2014 Jury.
> >> There is a list of general requirements on Meta[4], but to summarise:
> >>
> >> * The Jury will be mostly community volunteers with possibly some
> >> Wikimedia Foundation staff or Board members;
> >> * We of course want a mix of people from a diverse range of
> >> backgrounds, sexes, cultures and regions of the world;
> >> * We want to represent the community across the different projects and
> >> activities;
> >> * You can't be on the Jury if you are closely involved in a Bid (it's
> >> a conflict of interest); and
> >> * You need to have some free time during the selection period
> >> (March-April).
> >>
> >> If you wish to be involved in the Jury, please e-mail me (off-list) at
> >> jdforrester at gmail.com - I will announce the Jury in one week's
> >> time, so please contact me immediately.
> >>
> >>
> >> == Note ==
> >>
> >> Last year, after some discussion on the Wikimania list[4] and other
> >> places, I felt we as a community had said we were unhappy with the
> >> traditional ad-hoc system for selecting the location for each year's
> >> Wikimania, and wanted something different, a process that involved the
> >> community and was more transparent, clearer and possibly set out
> >> candidate areas or countries rather than inviting interested bids
> >> alone. In the hope that the community would self-organise along these
> >> lines, I haven't done anything to re-run the existing system.
> >>
> >> However, no real discussion has taken place, and the process is now
> >> four months overdue[5]. It's clear that a community-agreed system
> >> won't magically snap into existence in the next few days.  I would
> >> implore the community to work to establish a selection system for 2015
> >> and beyond, but we cannot wait for 2014. Therefore, on the basis that
> >> I've done this before, I am running the process for Wikimania 2014 as
> >> before, as a non-voting organiser like the previous times. I would
> >> hope that this is the last time.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please also consider passing this message on (and translating it!) for
> >> your wiki's community forum for those that don't read these mailing
> >> lists.
> >>
> >> Thank you, and good luck to all Bids.
> >>
> >>
> >> [0] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014
> >> [1] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Bids
> >> [5] -
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_bid_selection_timeline?oldid=5233347
> >> [3] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_jury
> >> [4] -
> >>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2011-November/003225.html
> >> etc.
> >> [5] -
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_bid_selection_timeline?oldid=5042528
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> --
> >> James D. Forrester
> >> [email protected]
> >> [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal
> >> capacity)
> >>
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>
> --
> James D. Forrester
> [email protected]
> [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal
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