On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Joseph Fox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Would would money even buy at the bidding stage? Absolutely nothing, > unless you count the venue? > > When did the DC team book their venue? How much was it? (Guessing they got > it for nothing, but probably wrong) > > I'm not sure I follow, but, your assumption here is that the amount would pay for the venue, even before it is decided which city would host the conference? Again, wouldn't every bidding city needed to be afforded the same privilege? or is there actually a reason why the UK bid would be special? Do I really need to point to Meta and every past wikimania budget, which hardly ever required an upfront amount for the venue, even before a venue was decided, or a bid was considered. Regards Theo > Joe > > On 25 August 2012 21:10, Theo10011 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am surprised at the reaction here. Is it so necessary for UK to have a >> bid or a winning bid at that, that you are willing to break convention, and >> spend this huge amount on a paid bid. >> >> This is unfair. I don't know the history about the bidding process, but >> bids that I saw were written by volunteers, some with or without a chapters >> support, or even knowledge in some cases. What about competing bids, since >> they can't afford to hire a team to just make a bid that won't be on equal >> footing, should they just not bother? or ask for the same grant? >> >> What if the UK still loses the bid? that would be donor money down the >> drain. If WMUK members personally finance this, it is one thing, but using >> this much money raised in the name of Wikipedia, to finance a bid for a >> single chapter to host the annual volunteer-run conference, seems very >> irresponsible, and antithetical to the entire spirit of a volunteer-run >> event. >> >> Regards >> Theo >> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Thomas Dalton >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On 25 August 2012 20:28, Itzik Edri <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Sorry, it's undiplomatic to interfere with others budget plans - but I >>> just >>> > can't ignore how the future of Wikimania will look like if others will >>> > follow UK plans to invest £40,000 only for the bid process (about >>> 62,000$). >>> >>> To be clear, that plan is still in draft, and that particular item has >>> received plenty of opposition. >>> >>> I am in favour of spending money on bids - it is necessary if we want >>> to get professional quality bids. I am not in favour of spending that >>> kind of money on bids, though. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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