> Haha, sorry but it seems some of the Wicket community are still living in > Lala land with regards to believing everything deployed to production has to > be written in Java. It is 2007, the realisation that Java is not the best > language for web apps has hit home for years now.
Oh, I can't disagree more. Java 'proved' (note that that's a very subjective to start with) to be not the best language for web apps because most of the 'Java' frameworks around are more focussed on inventing declarative programming models, usually based on XML or annotations than on enabling users to simply program Java like Wicket made it it's goal. I'm sure Grails/ Groovy can give you an edge in cases, but at the same time, I'm absolutely convinced it many cases such an edge would only be short term (quick delivery of basic functionality). Take the project I'm working on now. It's a complex beast, with hardly any real straightforward CRUD functionality. The ability to refactor without problems, navigate code quickly, reuse similar pieces of functionality as custom components etc etc makes using Java very valuable. I don't want to get into yet another framework battle, certainly not on our own mailing list, but imo, there are good cases for both, and a level of integration would be more than welcome, especially because users get to choose what they want while still being able to switch from one to the other/ or do parts of their project in one and parts in the other, and have a better level of reuse. > A good language for > writing a lot of your business logic yes, but your business logic and web > logic are two different things and if you're mixing them you're already > making mistakes right there. You can just write n layers in Java and keep em separated. I don't see any problems with that. Cheers, Eelco ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Wicket-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
