Hi Bob,

You probably know this but if I want to find non-performant queries, I use the *Slow Query Log*.

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pablo


On 2026-08-14 17:01, Bob Atchley wrote:
Thanks
I should have said i'm using mariadb ... I think that has an OPTIMISE TABLE equivalent to VACUUM, but no I have not used it (I'll experiment on an off line database). It wasn't clear to me what extra derived types I needed, and the extended schema should give me future compatibility ... so no regrets other working out how I will back it up.

On Friday, 14 August 2026 at 21:14:04 UTC+1 Tom Keffer wrote:

    Have you tried the VACUUM <https://sqlite.org/lang_vacuum.html>
    command?

    Also, you did not need to switch to the wview-extended schema,
    just add columns for any derived types. See /Troubleshooting V5
    performance issues
    <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/v5-performance-troubleshooting>/.

    On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 1:04 PM Bob Atchley <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        Raspbian BullsEye is end of life at the end of August  2026 (2
        weeks time as I write this).
        With the number of security issues being dug up by AI, doing
        nothing is a high risk strategy.

        I decided to make the move to Ubuntu 26.04 on my RPi4 (giving
        a upgrade path going forward) and of course the latest weewx
        version (5.5.0).

        The biggest hurdle is that weewx doesn't break, so not touched
        it for years and I have forgotten everything.
        Great documentation and the Wiki are the saving graces.

        On BullsEye I was running a very early (beta) release of weewx
        5.0 using the old database schema and just using the standard
        Seasons Skin,
        I realised I had a serious performance issue after the upgrade:

        Before:
        user.log.1:Aug  8 23:25:21 rpi4 weewx[965] INFO
        weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 10 images for report
        SeasonsReport in 0.74 seconds
        user.log.1:Aug  8 23:30:21 rpi4 weewx[965] INFO
        weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report
        SeasonsReport in 2.28 seconds

        After:
        026-08-14T14:37:47.234310+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[5648]: INFO
        weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report
        SeasonsReport in 144.66 seconds
        2026-08-14T14:43:52.117916+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[5648]: INFO
        weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 10 images for report
        SeasonsReport in 364.88 seconds

        so 4 seconds to write the reports before, 500 seconds after,
        with 100% CPU usage.  Disappointing.

        Reading between the lines more use is being made of the
        extended database schema, causing a large overhead if still
        using the old schema.
        So I followed the Wiki:
        
https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Switching-to-the-new-wview_extended-schema

        This solved the performance issues:
        2026-08-14T18:40:28.340408+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[7306]: INFO
        weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report
        SeasonsReport in 5.37 seconds
        2026-08-14T18:40:29.342990+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[7306]: INFO
        weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 10 images for report
        SeasonsReport in 1.00 seconds

        This is perfectly acceptable performance.

        The downside is my database when backed up is now 1.4GB (95MB
        gzipped) - basically double the size from before.

        My backup strategy has been to use google cloud (via rclone)
        but I was getting bandwidth limit errors before this increase
        of size.
        Still need to work out how to fix this.

        Hope this helps anyone else doing something similar

        Cheers

        Bob

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