Thanks
I should have said i'm using mariadb ... I think that has an OPTIMISE TABLE 
equivalent to VACUUM, but no I have not used it (I'll experiment on an off 
line database).
It wasn't clear to me what extra derived types I needed, and the extended 
schema should give me future compatibility ... so no regrets other working 
out how I will back it up.

On Friday, 14 August 2026 at 21:14:04 UTC+1 Tom Keffer wrote:

> Have you tried the VACUUM <https://sqlite.org/lang_vacuum.html> command?
>
> Also, you did not need to switch to the wview-extended schema, just add 
> columns for any derived types. See *Troubleshooting V5 performance issues 
> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/v5-performance-troubleshooting>*.
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 1:04 PM Bob Atchley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Raspbian BullsEye is end of life at the end of August  2026 (2 weeks time 
>> as I write this). 
>> With the number of security issues being dug up by AI, doing nothing is a 
>> high risk strategy. 
>>
>> I decided to make the move to Ubuntu 26.04 on my RPi4 (giving a upgrade 
>> path going forward) and of course the latest weewx version (5.5.0). 
>>
>> The biggest hurdle is that weewx doesn't break, so not touched it for 
>> years and I have forgotten everything. 
>> Great documentation and the Wiki are the saving graces. 
>>
>> On BullsEye I was running a very early (beta) release of weewx 5.0 using 
>> the old database schema and just using the standard Seasons Skin, 
>> I realised I had a serious performance issue after the upgrade: 
>>
>> Before: 
>> user.log.1:Aug  8 23:25:21 rpi4 weewx[965] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: 
>> Generated 10 images for report SeasonsReport in 0.74 seconds 
>> user.log.1:Aug  8 23:30:21 rpi4 weewx[965] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>> Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 2.28 seconds 
>>
>> After: 
>> 026-08-14T14:37:47.234310+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[5648]: INFO 
>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 
>> 144.66 seconds 
>> 2026-08-14T14:43:52.117916+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[5648]: INFO 
>> weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 10 images for report SeasonsReport in 
>> 364.88 seconds 
>>
>> so 4 seconds to write the reports before, 500 seconds after, with 100% 
>> CPU usage.  Disappointing. 
>>
>> Reading between the lines more use is being made of the extended database 
>> schema, causing a large overhead if still using the old schema. 
>> So I followed the Wiki: 
>>
>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Switching-to-the-new-wview_extended-schema
>>  
>>
>> This solved the performance issues: 
>> 2026-08-14T18:40:28.340408+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[7306]: INFO 
>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 5.37 
>> seconds 
>> 2026-08-14T18:40:29.342990+00:00 rpi4 weewxd[7306]: INFO 
>> weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 10 images for report SeasonsReport in 1.00 
>> seconds 
>>
>> This is perfectly acceptable performance. 
>>
>> The downside is my database when backed up is now 1.4GB (95MB gzipped) - 
>> basically double the size from before. 
>>
>> My backup strategy has been to use google cloud (via rclone) but I was 
>> getting bandwidth limit errors before this increase of size. 
>> Still need to work out how to fix this. 
>>
>> Hope this helps anyone else doing something similar
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bob
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