Thanks.  As I mentioned in email, I had issues there too.  I wound up doing 
a force (re)install of 5.0.2 then an install (not a --upgrade) which picked 
up 5.1.0b4 that time.  Pretty odd.

Glad to see logging via syslog shows what version is actually starting...

pi@pi4:/var/log/weewx$ grep "Initializing" weewxd-vp2.log
May 26 10:17:51 pi4 weewxd-vp2[32270]: INFO __main__: Initializing weewxd 
version 5.0.2
May 26 10:25:59 pi4 weewxd-vp2[32469]: INFO __main__: Initializing weewxd 
version 5.0.2
May 26 12:08:31 pi4 weewxd-vp2[1217]: INFO __main__: Initializing 
weewxd-vp2 version 5.1.0b4

The first two are after attempts to upgrade that didn't upgrade for some 
reason.  The last one was after specifying a version ala "pip install -i 
https://test.pypi.org/simple/ weewx==5.1.0b4"



On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 4:06:05 PM UTC-7 Tom Keffer wrote:

> The logging of loop_on_init and group ownerships both worked for me.
>
> Make sure you're actually running v5.1.0. I had some issues doing a clean 
> install, which, long story short, ended up with me installing v5.0.2. I 
> then upgraded.
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 10:51 AM vince <vince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Couple things.   In my case I'm upgrading 5.0.2 pip multi but I 'did' 
>> have a hand-patched weewxd.py to fix the loop_on_init not working issue.
>>
>> First - I had to stop all weewx instances before forcing a pip upgrade to 
>> get the weewxd.py file to actually upgrade by adding the --force-reinstall 
>> switch to the pip command.  Can't explain that at all unless pip has some 
>> misfeature under the hood that won't change a file later hand-edited in 
>> version X that is upgraded in X+1.  Odd.
>>
>> Second - what branch is the 5.1.0 beta off of ?  I know there are 
>> frequently changes made on master and not on development (ugh),  so 
>> wondering if there's some kind of backmerge massacre or the like that 
>> happened.   I guess I'm uncertain the changes you 'think' are in the beta 
>> code are really in there.  Might be worth a check.
>>
>> Some examples:
>>
>>    - no loop_on_init messages are logged (pr 935)
>>    - no listing of user groups is logged  (pr 934)
>>
>> Best guess is you had a refactor massacre or merge massacre in 
>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/commit/301872148163052e8860eb371fc7f8627a3ba881#diff-d4000f2ead6f89d7e914b2afed472744a1327c53978ab97a114fb79d7fdfac3a
>>  
>> but at this point I can't follow which (believed to be in there) changes 
>> are actually in the current code on any branch.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-7 Ian Millard wrote:
>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> With a pip install, a big tick in the box for the 4 four bullet points. 
>>> Everything executed perfectly as far as I can see. The journal log is clean 
>>> with no errors. Language options not tested,
>>>
>>> Skins, Seasons and weewx-DivumWX Alpha (replacement for weewx-Weather34)
>>> Hardware, Various Ecowitt  and Ecowitt 2000 Hub
>>> Driver weewx-gw1000
>>> Server Debian 12, Apache2 running on a re-purposed Apple MacMini
>>> URLs, https://claydonsweather.org.uk and 
>>>            https://claydonsweather.org.uk/seasons
>>>
>>> IM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 May 2024, at 23:06, Tom Keffer <tke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> python3 -m pip install weewx --upgrade -i 
>>>
>>>
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