>   
> On 20 Mar 2024 at 11:20, Pi Radio  <radio...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
> OK bear with me please... I can't seem to be able to get back onto the Forum 
> today either...? Please can you guide me?
>   
>
>   
> I am now following a Tutorial from here;
>   
>
>   
> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor/tree/master?tab=readme-ov-file
>   
>
>   
> But I get stuck on something called pip and python-libpcap? This seems to put 
> me in a loop trying to get stuff to install...
>   
>
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo pip3 install guizero
>   
> error: externally-managed-environment
>   
>
>   
> × This environment is externally managed
>   
> ╰─>  To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
>   
>        python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
>   
>        install.
>   
>         
>   
>        If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
>   
>        create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
>   
>        Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
>   
>        sure you have python3-full installed.
>   
>         
>   
>        For more information visit  http://rptl.io/venv
>   
>
>   
> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python 
> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk 
> of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing 
> --break-system-packages.
>   
> hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ system-wide, try apt install
>   
>        python3-xyz
>   
> bash: system-wide,: command not found
>   
> bash: python3-xyz: command not found
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ system-wide, try apt install python3
>   
> bash: system-wide,: command not found
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ system-wide,apt install python3
>   
> bash: system-wide,apt: command not found
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ apt install python3
>   
> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: 
> Permission denied)
>   
> E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), 
> are you root?
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt install python3
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> python3 is already the newest version (3.11.2-1+b1).
>   
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo pip3    install python3
>   
> error: externally-managed-environment
>   
>
>   
> × This environment is externally managed
>   
> ╰─>  To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
>   
>        python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
>   
>        install.
>   
>         
>   
>        If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
>   
>        create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
>   
>        Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
>   
>        sure you have python3-full installed.
>   
>         
>   
>        For more information visit  http://rptl.io/venv
>   
>
>   
> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python 
> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk 
> of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing 
> --break-system-packages.
>   
> hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt-get install python-pip
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> Package python-pip is not available, but is referred to by another package.
>   
> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
>   
> is only available from another source
>   
> However the following packages replace it:
>   
>    python3-pip
>   
>
>   
> E: Package 'python-pip' has no installation candidate
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt-get install python3-pip
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> python3-pip is already the newest version (23.0.1+dfsg-1+rpt1).
>   
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ python3 -m pip install --upgrade pip
>   
> error: externally-managed-environment
>   
>
>   
> × This environment is externally managed
>   
> ╰─>  To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
>   
>        python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
>   
>        install.
>   
>         
>   
>        If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
>   
>        create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
>   
>        Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
>   
>        sure you have python3-full installed.
>   
>         
>   
>        For more information visit  http://rptl.io/venv
>   
>
>   
> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python 
> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk 
> of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing 
> --break-system-packages.
>   
> hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ pip-3.2.
>   
> bash: pip-3.2.: command not found
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ pip-3.2
>   
> bash: pip-3.2: command not found
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ install pip-3.2
>   
> install: missing destination file operand after 'pip-3.2'
>   
> Try 'install --help' for more information.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ apt install pip-3.2
>   
> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: 
> Permission denied)
>   
> E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), 
> are you root?
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt-get install python-libpcap
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> E: Unable to locate package python-libpcap
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt-get install python-libpcap-dev
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> E: Unable to locate package python-libpcap-dev
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt-get install libpcap-dev
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> libpcap-dev is already the newest version (1.10.3-1).
>   
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ python3 -m pip-3.2    install --upgrade pip-3.2
>   
> /usr/bin/python3: Error while finding module specification for 'pip-3.2' 
> (ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pip-3')
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ python3 -m pip    install --upgrade pip-3.2
>   
> error: externally-managed-environment
>   
>
>   
> × This environment is externally managed
>   
> ╰─>  To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
>   
>        python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
>   
>        install.
>   
>         
>   
>        If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
>   
>        create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
>   
>        Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
>   
>        sure you have python3-full installed.
>   
>         
>   
>        For more information visit  http://rptl.io/venv
>   
>
>   
> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python 
> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk 
> of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing 
> --break-system-packages.
>   
> hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $
>   
>
>   
>
>   
> WEEWX@WEEWX:~ $ sudo apt-get install python-libpcap
>   
> Reading package lists... Done
>   
> Building dependency tree... Done
>   
> Reading state information... Done
>   
> E: Unable to locate package python-libpcap
>   
>   
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:02:46 PM UTC Rainer Lang wrote:
>   
> >   
> >   
> >
> > @vince
> >  for his GW2000 yes, but for his W830 no - the W830 doesn't have the local 
> > Ecowitt API - there only the interceptor works (and quite well)
> >
> >
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > On 18.03.2024 21:59, vince wrote:
> >     
> >   
> > > FWIW the gw1000 driver is 'much' easier to get going especially if you're 
> > > new to the pi.    Works great.
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:12:19 PM UTC-7 Pi Radio wrote:
> > >   
> > > >   
> > > >   
> > > > Interceptor... I saw that earlier....?     
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > > Going forwards I'll stop running and walk slowly through this. Thank 
> > > > you.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > > By the way the Clock on my VHS VCR is still Flashing... I must read the 
> > > > Instruction Manual one day. (If you are not of a certain age, you are 
> > > > not going to get that joke).
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > > But in all seriousness, I am struggling a bit finding my way around all 
> > > > of this jargon, so I thought that before getting too much further lost, 
> > > > I thought I'd wave and ask for guidance.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > > I've learnt a great deal so far on this massive learning curve, but 
> > > > obviously I am not up to this ...yet.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > > Bear with me whilst I uninstall it all again, and start a fresh again.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > > Many thanks for the Links, I'm off to do some more reading.
> > > >     
> > > >   
> > > >   
> > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 7:55 PM 'Rainer Lang' via weewx-user  
> > > > <weewx...@googlegroups.com>  wrote:
> > > >     
> > > >   
> > > > >   
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > > The Ventus W830 is a Ecowitt WH2910 clone. In your mail it is not 
> > > > > clear what "it" means. Your RaspberryPi, weewx, the console.... ?
> > > > >  Maybe you should first make yourself familiar with your environment, 
> > > > > your setup, the architecture and then see where weewx comes into play.
> > > > >
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest you read   https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0  
> > > > > and read the Ecowitt/FineOffset WiKi linked therein.
> > > > >  Read the chapters about data flow and understand where weewx comes 
> > > > > into play.
> > > > >  Then there are several chapters about how to connect an Ecowitt 
> > > > > console to data logger programs like weewx - even with the special 
> > > > > example of weewx.
> > > > >
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > > For your W830 you can (only) use the weewx interceptor driver, for 
> > > > > your GW2000 the Ecowitt gateway driver aka GW1000 driver.
> > > > >
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > > The weewx WiKi, even though having significantly improved over time, 
> > > > > does not give too much attention to the Ecowitt universe yet.
> > > > >  But there is the Fine Offset / Ecowitt WiKi which jumps in here 
> > > > > regarding which Ecowitt (clone) consoles are supported.
> > > > >  The weewx WiKi itself is still widely focused on old legacy models 
> > > > > of Fine Offset clone consoles and stations.
> > > > >
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I suggest you read this first (see above) and then come back here 
> > > > > if still needed - by the way, the Simulator driver is only to show 
> > > > > that weewx has been set up properly in principle. It won't work with 
> > > > > your console (Weather Station). Having read the weewx documentation 
> > > > > you could have understood that - but to be fair, it took me also a 
> > > > > longer time to come to grips with the jargon etc. used even though 
> > > > > being an IT professional.
> > > > >
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   
> > > > > On 18.03.2024 20:15, Pi Radio wrote:
> > > > >   
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > I have just joined, and cannot get my Raspberry Pi configured for 
> > > > > > my Ventus W830 PWS.    It is linked to various Online Weather sites 
> > > > > > including Weather Underground via it's Display. I also have it 
> > > > > > linked to an Ecowitt GW2000 that is not currently linked to any 
> > > > > > Online Weather sites.
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > I have read the User Guide, and followed various Tutorials, but I 
> > > > > > am none the wiser as to why it does not work?
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > Is there a step by step guide that is written for a complete novice 
> > > > > > like me to follow?
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > Although the Ventus W830 is listed in the Compatible Hardware List 
> > > > > > as a Fine Offset model it does not appear in the Available Hardware 
> > > > > > Types in the Software on my Raspberry Pi. I have tried using 
> > > > > > Simulator, plus all of the (dozen or so) options for the various 
> > > > > > types of PWS listed in the software.   
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > What am I not doing correctly, or what I have missed, I have no 
> > > > > > idea? I have just followed the Instructions in the "Guide". But 
> > > > > > there still seem to be lots of CRITICAL __main__: errors in Red, so 
> > > > > > it is a bit catistrophic?
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > I am not a programmer, nor that familiar with a Raspberry Pi. All I 
> > > > > > know is what I have been struggling with here, and following 
> > > > > > YouTube videos.
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > Any help would be very, very much appreciated.   
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