On 2010-12-20, at 10:16 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Personally, OS X Server is useful for just Web hosting. As a general >> workgroup server, now that's different. I made a chart of the Mac Mini >> Server vs Windows Small Business Server on Dell/HP/Lenovo boxes, and the >> Mini is 50% cheaper while not having any limit of the number of users. And >> OS X Server is a joy to install vs. Windows SMB, I had to install SMB and >> that stupid crap won't warm you about not having enough RAM until it's >> half-way into the install, and when you got it to run, it tell you to >> disable the DHCP service on your network so that Windows start its own! >> > > You're comparing to Windows here. I was talking about comparisons to real > servers. Sorry, did not think that even needed to be said. > > "Better than Windows" is the same as saying "better than a stick in the eye." > Lots of things are better than a stick in the eye.
We will miss the warm and fuzzy of deploying on the same OS we develop on. But, we recently moved to a Hudson build server running on Linux ,so that compensates somewhat by at least building on the same OS we use for deploying. > > - ray > >>> >>> I am curious what others are thinking about this. My company has several >>> data centers around the work running on Mac OS X Servers, but given the >>> announcements from Apple, we are obviously re-thinking our deployments. >>> >>> And as we do so, a few things come to mind. For example: >>> >>> - No more Software Update. We could actually be more easily in control of >>> our installations. >>> >>> - The ability to take extra crap off of the servers. I have only one word. >>> iTunes. Why is it so hard to remove this from our servers? >>> >>> - We could go to different kinds of hardware, like blade systems. >>> >>> - We can use a more easily virtualized OS. >>> >>> So, what will we miss? >>> >>> I think we may miss launchd, or at least I will. But then, for example, >>> JavaMonitor does not control app instances with launchd and I think it >>> should, so it is obviously not as compelling to others as I think it should >>> be. >>> >>> Will we miss Server Admin? No. Nice GUI but then, where the heck does it >>> put things and what is not quite available via the UI? For every time it >>> helps, there is another time it causes other hassles. >>> >>> So, is there anything else to miss? Maybe not. The WO deployment mailing >>> list might be getting more interesting. We will see. >>> >>> - ray ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
